181: Earth (Four Elements Series)

The Four Elements series continues with the element of Earth!

This episode we're going to dive into the element that's always around us and let's us feel grounded (pun intended). Earth and earth-adjacent characters and abilities are everywhere in the worlds of fiction and we're gonna dig deep into the meaning, inspiration, and examples. Yup... we said "dig" because... #dadjoke.

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Joshua: welcome to Geekology 101, my name is Joshua.

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Diego: And my name is Diego, and we apologize for Joshua just blowing your eardrums and your speakers.

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Joshua: Okay.

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Joshua: And today, we bring you the second part of our Four Elements series, and today we are covering...

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Joshua: Earth.

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Joshua: Earth.

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Diego: Or as some people would say, Earth.

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Joshua: Earth.

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Diego: Earth with double F.

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Joshua: Like Dwayne.

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Joshua: The Rock.

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Diego: The Rock Johnson.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: Can't wait to talk about him.

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Joshua: He's like the strongest, probably.

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Diego: Most epic.

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Diego: Anyway, so yeah, this has been pretty interesting with the water element.

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Diego: I first didn't think that we were going to be able to have like a lot to talk about.

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Diego: But it turned out that like we did, because the more you get into this stuff, and the more you get into like the nature of these kind of elemental powers, the more interesting the research becomes.

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Diego: And there's also like the meaningfulness of the element to life, or to our way of seeing the world, and our identity as people.

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Diego: And so this is no different, right?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: So I'm gonna go ahead and start off, just like I did with the element of water, and just hit on some general points of like, what kind of symbolism, and what meaning does the element of Earth have for people?

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Diego: And for like, maybe storytelling and stuff.

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Diego: So Earth, as opposed to water, water being very fluid, being like a source of life.

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Joshua: The Earth is kind of like clunky, or just kind of like, like I feel like water in general just feels kind of soft.

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Diego: Yeah.

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Joshua: But like Earth is very like, it's like very hard, like opposed to water.

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Diego: Yeah, yeah.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: And it makes sense too, because like the element of Earth is usually associated in like spiritual circles and stuff like that, and mystical circles.

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Diego: It's associated a lot with like firmness, stability.

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Diego: Like when you think about it, Earth is like the foundation of everything on our planet.

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Joshua: Right?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: Like all of our human made structures, all of nature made structures, like all of it is dependent on Earth, right?

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Diego: The tallest trees in the world could not stand were it not for Earth.

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Diego: So it's like, it's a very grounded, no pun intended, a very grounded element.

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Diego: It is the thing that it's like where life comes from and comes out of, right?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: All the plants, all the vegetation where the majority of them grow out of the Earth.

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Diego: There's even like spiritual beliefs and like Abrahamic religions and stuff like that where part of the mythology, like the Book of Genesis is where God took Earth dust from the ground, blew his breath in it and formed the man out of it.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: And that's where you get like that whole idea of you came from the dust into the dust, you shall return.

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Diego: And it's like, it's so much into our carbon based identity, like we are made from the Earth, we come from the Earth in a way.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: It's pretty interesting, right?

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Diego: Hello?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: Are you still there?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: I can't see you over these sound blockers.

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Diego: And then, of course, like Earth is the name of our planet.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: You know, it's like that's how, that's how deep it is in the identity of us as a species, you know?

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Diego: It's almost like it's the cradle of our species and all the other species that are on this planet.

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Diego: So Earth is like a very ground type of solid, firm foundation element.

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Diego: And you're going to find that kind of symbolism everywhere when it comes to, you know, again, spirituality and stuff.

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Diego: So when it comes to storytelling, how do you think that translates into storytelling, fiction, abilities and all that stuff?

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Joshua: Well, one character I feel like that kind of embodies that, that kind of embodies the element of Earth in general, is Toph from Avatar.

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Joshua: Basically, she's like a rich girl who's like really privileged and everything, and she's blind.

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Diego: Okay.

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Joshua: And her parents sent her to this like earthbending teacher, and while she's there, she basically pretends to be like a novice level earthbender.

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Joshua: She can like only just kind of like pick up rocks and like throw them.

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Joshua: And her parents think like she's just a little helpless, defensive girl, but in reality, she literally is the best earthbender in the entire show.

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Joshua: Probably in the whole world at that point, honestly.

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Diego: How far does she take her earthbending layer?

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Diego: What kind of stuff?

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Diego: Because Avatar, by the way, is probably like one of the first places that your mind goes to if you're familiar with fiction.

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Diego: One of the first places your mind goes to when it comes to the Four Elements.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: So it's almost like the default thing that we like.

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Joshua: The show is basically all about it.

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Diego: Right.

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Diego: Right.

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Diego: So how far does she take her?

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Diego: She's like the best.

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Diego: How far?

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Diego: I'm really curious because of some notes that I took further on.

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Diego: I'm really curious, like how far does she take it?

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Diego: And what does she extend it to that other people can't?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Joshua: Okay.

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Joshua: So first, there's this one scene, which a lot of people use as like one of her best feats.

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Joshua: And it's like the whole crew is basically trapped in this tower in the middle of the desert.

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Joshua: It's like a massive, massive, massive tower in the middle of the desert.

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Joshua: And it starts like crumbling.

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Joshua: Like it's about to crash down on them, and they're probably going to die.

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Joshua: But they left Toph on guard duty, which is kind of interesting because she's blind.

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Joshua: But she like sees with her feet, like she like walks in the vibrations.

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Diego: That makes, yeah.

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Diego: Which is really powerful, actually.

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Joshua: She's kind of like Daredevil.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Joshua: And while this thing is like crumbling down on them, she holds up the entire tower, like this massive, massive thing.

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Joshua: And she holds it up.

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Diego: Which I'm assuming is not made of just like mud bricks or something.

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Joshua: No, it's like full stone and everything.

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Diego: Yeah.

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Joshua: So that's one thing.

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Joshua: She can also bend sand, which is can be really powerful.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Joshua: And one thing that she like innovated, the thing that she created is metal bending because there was this one time in the show where she was captured because she like kind of ran away from home.

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Diego: Yeah.

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Joshua: And her parents sent her like old earthbending teacher and this wrestler guy after her.

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Joshua: And they had her trapped in this metal cage.

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Diego: Yeah.

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Joshua: And she was like, there's no way I'm going to let these guys just like take me back to my rich lifestyle.

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Joshua: And so she for the first time out of just pure annoyance, I guess, because she just didn't want to go back to her home.

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Joshua: She literally just bended the metal out of like the pure minerals in the actual metal.

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Diego: And that actually brings up a point that I have in my notes to talk about.

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Diego: And it's the fact that like we're talking, this whole series is formulated around the four core elements, right?

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Diego: And that's traditionally what is identified as those like primary elements.

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Diego: But within them, as we found out with water, you can't talk about water without ending up talking about ice or vapor or even air.

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Diego: Because water molecules are in so many things.

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Diego: And so even in the human body, like we talked about, right?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: So it's the same thing when it comes to Earth.

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Diego: There's something called geokinesis, right?

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Diego: And last time we were talking about cryokinesis.

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Joshua: Always you with the kinesis.

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Diego: You can count that for this whole series, I'm going to be the kinesis guy, okay?

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Diego: Or you could call me Diego Kinesis Aguirre.

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Diego: Like I am the guy who's going to come with those terms.

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Diego: So there's geokinesis or terrokinesis.

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Diego: And both of these refer to being able to like create or shape or manipulate Earth and Earthen elements in some way, right?

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Diego: And so this is not necessarily like when you think about it, are we just talking about here when we talk about the element of Earth, are we just talking about literal rocks and dirt?

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Diego: Or are we talking about anything that lives within the Earth?

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Diego: And like if you take the planet Earth and you go deeper and deeper and deeper, you start revealing these layers, right, of like all sorts of minerals and elements that are all related to the Earth.

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Diego: So as soon as you start thinking about Earth, you eventually make your way down to metals, minerals, glass, molten things, right, lava, magma, like...

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Joshua: Oh yeah, lava bending is also something that...

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Diego: And is it a subset of Earth bending?

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Joshua: Yeah, it's a lot of things that Earth benders can do.

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Diego: Yeah, yeah.

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Diego: So like that sort of thing is like, it may, it starts expanding this topic like tremendously, right?

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Diego: So anyway, anything else you want to say about Homegirl?

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Joshua: Nothing, I mean, she's definitely, at least in the original show, she was definitely the best Earth bender, and she literally created a whole new type of bending that like people use for generations, generations after that.

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Diego: So metal bending, aka metallokinesis.

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Joshua: It's always a kinesis.

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Diego: There's always a kinesis, metallokinesis.

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Joshua: Metallokinesis.

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Diego: Yeah, that's the ability to manipulate metal based molecules in some way, any kind of metal alloy, whatever.

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Diego: Metallokinesis, you're welcome, everybody.

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Diego: Teaching you the vocabulary here.

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Diego: Yeah.

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Diego: Okay.

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Diego: So what else you got in the form of earth control, geokinesis, pterokinesis, earth bending type of stuff?

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Diego: What else do you have in your notes about that?

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Joshua: I have poison ivy.

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Joshua: I don't know if that's...

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Joshua: I feel like you definitely had that somewhere.

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Diego: Yeah, absolutely.

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Joshua: But I mean, her whole literally who she is, is that she controls plants.

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Joshua: She can make massive, scary monsters out of plants.

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Joshua: She can bend plants to her will.

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Diego: You know what I'm going to give you next, right?

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Joshua: Dukes, though...

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Diego: There's a kinesis for that, too.

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Joshua: Wait, should I guess what it is?

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Diego: Go ahead.

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Joshua: It's going to be...

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Joshua: I actually have no idea.

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Joshua: Just saying.

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Diego: There's four different terms that we can...

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Joshua: Or are you going to say all of them?

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Joshua: Of course.

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Joshua: Do they all have kinesises?

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Diego: All of them have kinesises.

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Joshua: Okay.

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Diego: So, you got chlorokinesis, like controlling the chloroform in things, which Poison Ivy does, right?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: I feel like you can't fully control plants to your will unless you're able to control them at that level.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: Then you got agrokinesis coming from agriculture and whatnot.

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Diego: Then you got botanokinesis coming from botany, right?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: Specifying plants.

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Diego: And then you got phytokinesis.

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Joshua: What does that mean?

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Diego: Yeah, I don't know.

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Diego: But the other ones are pretty clearly related to plants and the structure of plants and the composition of plants.

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Diego: So are we considering that just with metallokinesis and the control of metal, vegetation control is another offshoot of earth control?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Diego: Yeah, I agree.

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Diego: So that expands our view pretty wide.

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Diego: So since you brought up vegetation, you've got Swamphing.

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Diego: Swamphing is huge.

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Diego: He's literally connected to like this.

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Joshua: I mean, he is vegetation.

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Diego: He is, but he's also connected to like a whole realm of the...

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Diego: It's called the green.

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Diego: And it's basically like an entire realm of what rules plant life and green life and earth and that sort of thing.

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Diego: Reminds me also of like this...

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Diego: It's like a dimension within the Spawn comics, where it's called Gaia.

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Diego: And it has like these godlike figures who are active in this battle with heaven and earth.

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Diego: Like they were kind of neutral for a long time in the battle between heaven and earth.

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Diego: And then they started realizing that the battle between heaven and earth, like demons and angels and stuff like that, got so intense and was partying the earth.

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Joshua: That it was destroying the earth?

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Diego: Yeah.

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Diego: And that's when they like decided to like, nope, nope, we're gonna step in.

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Diego: Like the current ruler of hell in the Spawn comics is actually someone who had a deep alliance with Gaia and all those characters.

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Diego: So it's like they're favoring, that's why they took away the powers from like every heaven and earth, every heaven and hell figure.

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Joshua: Oh, it was Gaia that did that?

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Diego: It was the ruler, Nix, the new ruler of hell.

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Diego: And so she's favoring the Gaia agenda over the agenda of heaven and hell.

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Diego: Yeah.

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Diego: Anyway, but yeah, that's definitely a thing.

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Diego: Like Man-Thing, back to him, he's somebody who...

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Joshua: Wait, Man-Thing or Swamp-Thing?

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Diego: Both of them, actually.

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Diego: Yeah, but probably Swamp-Thing is a bit more powerful on the power side, on the ability side.

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Joshua: He is like the guardian of like all plant life on earth, right?

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Diego: For sure, yeah, of the green.

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Diego: And he, again, he is made fully of plant.

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Diego: He is plant organism.

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Joshua: He's basically...

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Joshua: He's kind of like Groot, but like more green.

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Joshua: That's like kind of what he looks like.

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Diego: Yep, yep, yeah.

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Diego: Much more powerful than Groot.

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Joshua: Yeah, yeah.

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Joshua: I feel like...

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Diego: Groot's connection kind of ends within himself.

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Diego: I haven't ever seen Groot control other nature, necessarily.

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Diego: Yeah.

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Diego: It seems like he can pretty infinitely control himself and grow himself and extend himself however he needs to, but yeah.

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Diego: But Man-Thing, there was a...

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Diego: I recently read DC vs.

00:14:37.875 - 00:14:54.575
Diego: Vampires, and there's a moment where green arrows are sneaking into this blood farm where they're like basically holding prisoner, say a concentration camp for humans in general, and they use them to keep them alive barely just for the sake of getting blood out of them.

00:14:54.575 - 00:14:54.735
Joshua: Yeah.

00:14:55.955 - 00:15:03.475
Diego: And he sneaks in there, and he brings in Swamp-Thing as a little like twig, as a little leaf or something.

00:15:03.475 - 00:15:05.055
Joshua: And does he like plant him?

00:15:05.055 - 00:15:11.575
Diego: Yeah, he puts him in the ground, and then he pees on him, urinates on him to make him grow, and he grew.

00:15:11.575 - 00:15:15.135
Diego: And then they're like, I think you will speak of this to no one.

00:15:15.135 - 00:15:18.195
Diego: But anyway, yeah, Swamp-Thing is really, really powerful.

00:15:18.195 - 00:15:19.715
Diego: Also connected to like mystical stuff.

00:15:19.875 - 00:15:20.975
Diego: Sort of like Man-Thing, too.

00:15:20.975 - 00:15:23.555
Diego: Man-Thing is very much into the mystical stuff.

00:15:23.555 - 00:15:28.275
Diego: The Guardian of the Nexus Point or whatever it was in Marvel Comics.

00:15:29.555 - 00:15:31.755
Diego: Yeah, do you have anyone else like in the vegetation realm?

00:15:33.375 - 00:15:42.235
Joshua: No, but I was going to mention, again, with Avatar, Aang, obviously, he is the Avatar, so we can control everything.

00:15:42.235 - 00:15:57.735
Joshua: But one thing is in the final battle between Aang and Ozai, Fire Lord Ozai, basically for like the first, maybe third of the battle, Aang, because he's like kind of a pacifist, right?

00:15:57.735 - 00:15:59.955
Joshua: So he doesn't really want to fight Ozai.

00:16:00.675 - 00:16:11.135
Joshua: So what he does is he conceals himself, and he like traps himself in this, like, earth-made orb, basically.

00:16:11.135 - 00:16:17.075
Joshua: And Ozai is like trying to like break through it and everything, but like Aang is like holding it together with all of his will.

00:16:17.075 - 00:16:26.915
Joshua: And something else that he does is like later in the fight, he gets a little bit of every element, and it's kind of like circling around him.

00:16:26.915 - 00:16:29.295
Joshua: Like he gets some rocks, he picks up some rocks.

00:16:29.735 - 00:16:32.355
Joshua: That circles around him, he gets some fire, that circles around him.

00:16:32.355 - 00:16:34.475
Joshua: And yeah, but I mean...

00:16:34.475 - 00:16:39.315
Diego: So when you said that earthbenders, some of them can control like lava and stuff.

00:16:39.315 - 00:16:39.835
Joshua: Yeah.

00:16:39.835 - 00:16:43.455
Diego: So does that mean that they also have like firebending capabilities?

00:16:45.055 - 00:16:45.375
Joshua: No.

00:16:45.375 - 00:16:45.735
Diego: No?

00:16:45.735 - 00:16:46.275
Diego: It's just...

00:16:46.295 - 00:16:48.975
Diego: They bring it out from the ground basically?

00:16:48.975 - 00:16:49.695
Diego: Okay.

00:16:49.695 - 00:16:50.275
Diego: Okay.

00:16:50.275 - 00:16:51.315
Diego: Interesting.

00:16:51.315 - 00:17:00.635
Diego: All right, let's see, like going back to like earthbending and earth control proper geokinesis, if you will, terra kinesis, if you will.

00:17:00.635 - 00:17:11.515
Diego: There's another like category of characters that are interesting because they don't necessarily control earth, but they're kind of made out of earth elements.

00:17:11.515 - 00:17:13.555
Diego: Like Ben Grimm, the thing.

00:17:13.555 - 00:17:15.035
Joshua: Yeah, I had him on my...

00:17:15.035 - 00:17:17.575
Diego: Yeah, like I think you can't help...

00:17:17.575 - 00:17:18.615
Diego: I mean, the guy is like...

00:17:18.615 - 00:17:19.175
Joshua: He is...

00:17:19.175 - 00:17:19.635
Diego: He is rock.

00:17:19.635 - 00:17:20.535
Joshua: He's rocks.

00:17:20.535 - 00:17:21.215
Joshua: Yeah.

00:17:21.215 - 00:17:21.675
Joshua: Yeah.

00:17:21.675 - 00:17:25.555
Diego: And I loved in the movie Phantforestic.

00:17:25.555 - 00:17:26.175
Joshua: Phantforestic.

00:17:26.175 - 00:17:26.815
Diego: Phantforestic.

00:17:28.655 - 00:17:33.455
Diego: I love the representation of how he like gained his powers.

00:17:34.595 - 00:17:42.795
Diego: There's a scene when, like after they have the accident in the other dimension or whatever the negative zone or whatever it was, that they get to...

00:17:44.375 - 00:17:47.475
Diego: They get to that military station where they're holding each of them separately.

00:17:47.475 - 00:17:47.715
Joshua: Yeah.

00:17:47.715 - 00:17:53.975
Diego: And like in Ben Grimm's holding cell or whatever, you just see like a pile of rocks.

00:17:54.895 - 00:17:59.075
Diego: Like it's this massive pile of rocks that is has no form yet.

00:17:59.075 - 00:18:03.995
Diego: And like he's kind of like shaking, moving within the pile of rocks.

00:18:03.995 - 00:18:09.015
Diego: But it's like you could tell that he doesn't have his humanoid form yet.

00:18:09.015 - 00:18:10.335
Joshua: He's just rocks?

00:18:10.335 - 00:18:10.895
Diego: Yeah.

00:18:10.895 - 00:18:14.195
Diego: Which is really disturbing when you think about it.

00:18:14.395 - 00:18:16.355
Diego: One of the things that I think people really...

00:18:17.495 - 00:18:26.795
Diego: People don't give that movie enough credit, because that movie truly for the first two thirds of that movie, it's a really solid movie.

00:18:27.575 - 00:18:30.995
Diego: The last third of the movie is where things go down, go south.

00:18:32.215 - 00:18:39.035
Diego: But the whole part up to where they get their abilities and whatnot, that whole chunk of that movie is brilliant, bro.

00:18:39.175 - 00:18:47.775
Diego: It's like dark, and the way that they get their powers, I like how true they are to the fact that they get their powers through an accident.

00:18:47.775 - 00:18:54.935
Diego: Because it's like in the comics and in other Fantastic Four movies and stuff, they always have the accident, and then they're like totally chilling right after.

00:18:55.615 - 00:19:09.415
Diego: Like the original in the Fantastic Four movies, where Steve Rogers was playing Human Torch, in those movies, they have the accident and they're in the hospital, when they come back to Earth.

00:19:09.415 - 00:19:16.735
Diego: And they're like walking around, chilling, Johnny Storm is having a blast, you know, it's like totally cool.

00:19:16.735 - 00:19:18.455
Diego: Yeah, kind of literally.

00:19:18.455 - 00:19:25.875
Diego: But in this one, in Fantastic Four, Johnny Storm is horrible.

00:19:25.875 - 00:19:34.375
Diego: Like he's sitting on a metal table in an isolated room, on fire, and like terrified.

00:19:35.095 - 00:19:40.295
Diego: And he's yelling for someone to explain what's going on, and he can't understand why he's on fire.

00:19:40.295 - 00:19:41.035
Joshua: Yeah.

00:19:41.035 - 00:19:42.735
Diego: Like imagine the terror of that, right?

00:19:42.735 - 00:19:48.355
Diego: Like even if you don't feel yourself burning, like you're on fire, how are you not scared of that?

00:19:48.355 - 00:19:48.455
Joshua: Yeah.

00:19:48.455 - 00:19:49.675
Diego: You know what I mean?

00:19:49.675 - 00:19:51.835
Diego: Then Ben Grimm is the same thing.

00:19:51.835 - 00:20:00.835
Diego: Like that dude was stuck in a cell as a cluster of rocks, and like who knows what horrible thoughts are going through his mind?

00:20:00.835 - 00:20:02.855
Diego: Like what happened to me?

00:20:03.435 - 00:20:04.375
Diego: Am I this now?

00:20:04.375 - 00:20:06.375
Diego: Like is this me for the rest of my life?

00:20:06.375 - 00:20:08.855
Diego: Like how do I reverse it?

00:20:08.855 - 00:20:11.715
Diego: You know, it's like a really like sense of terror.

00:20:11.715 - 00:20:14.415
Diego: It's really, really creepy.

00:20:14.415 - 00:20:15.255
Diego: And I like that.

00:20:15.255 - 00:20:24.075
Diego: I like that kind of like more grounded, more like terror-based way of obtaining the ability.

00:20:24.075 - 00:20:25.435
Diego: So anyway, yeah.

00:20:25.435 - 00:20:30.775
Diego: All that to say that like Ben Grimm is definitely like, he is Earth in a way, you know?

00:20:30.775 - 00:20:32.155
Diego: You can't like take that away from him.

00:20:32.575 - 00:20:35.015
Diego: Then there's another one, Clayface.

00:20:35.015 - 00:20:35.375
Joshua: Yeah.

00:20:35.375 - 00:20:37.555
Joshua: I mean, I actually didn't.

00:20:37.555 - 00:20:39.355
Joshua: I didn't think of him.

00:20:39.355 - 00:20:47.855
Joshua: But I mean, he, I feel like he's one of the more like, obviously, he can do like crazy stuff with his body.

00:20:47.855 - 00:20:50.695
Joshua: Like he can like turn his arms into like weapons or whatever.

00:20:50.695 - 00:21:03.455
Joshua: But the main thing that he kind of does in a lot of Batman media that I see in like the games and whatever movies, is just being able to transform into anybody's body and like alter his voice.

00:21:03.455 - 00:21:05.895
Joshua: I don't know if he like alters his vocal cords.

00:21:05.895 - 00:21:06.555
Joshua: He must.

00:21:06.555 - 00:21:07.335
Diego: Yeah, he must.

00:21:07.335 - 00:21:07.935
Joshua: Yeah.

00:21:07.935 - 00:21:21.235
Joshua: So I mean, in the Arkham games, mostly Arkham City, I guess, that he's a big part of that game because he's pretending to be the Joker for a lot of that game.

00:21:21.235 - 00:21:21.735
Diego: Oh yeah.

00:21:22.415 - 00:21:24.015
Diego: Like the healthy Joker.

00:21:24.015 - 00:21:24.655
Diego: Yeah.

00:21:24.655 - 00:21:25.495
Diego: I've forgotten about that.

00:21:25.495 - 00:21:26.255
Diego: Yeah.

00:21:26.255 - 00:21:26.435
Diego: Yeah.

00:21:26.435 - 00:21:28.255
Diego: I'm actually I started.

00:21:28.255 - 00:21:31.555
Diego: I watched Batman.

00:21:31.555 - 00:21:32.375
Diego: What's it called?

00:21:32.375 - 00:21:33.615
Diego: The new one?

00:21:35.035 - 00:21:36.395
Joshua: Cape Crusader, Cape Crusader.

00:21:36.395 - 00:21:43.975
Diego: I watched Batman, Cape Crusader, and like the style, of course, is so similar to the animated series that it got me into the mood to rewatch the animated series.

00:21:43.975 - 00:21:46.615
Diego: So I'm like on episode six or seven or something.

00:21:46.615 - 00:21:49.895
Diego: And it's to parter for the introduction of Clayface.

00:21:50.795 - 00:21:53.175
Diego: And it's really interesting, man.

00:21:53.175 - 00:22:05.095
Diego: Like Clayface is, I don't, I guess depending on which origin story you're following, like he's not technically made out of like earth and water, like clay, that kind of clay.

00:22:05.095 - 00:22:08.995
Diego: It's some sort of other thing caused by a chemical exposure to something.

00:22:10.475 - 00:22:18.415
Diego: So it's like he functions like earth and water mix, like the clay that we know, you know, clay things.

00:22:18.875 - 00:22:20.075
Diego: But not exactly.

00:22:20.075 - 00:22:21.895
Diego: It's a different kind of thing.

00:22:21.895 - 00:22:30.955
Diego: But still, it's like the closest thing that you can get to, you know, earth, I think, as far as like Batman's roster of characters.

00:22:30.955 - 00:22:34.875
Diego: So I would definitely include him there just because he functions like the element.

00:22:36.075 - 00:22:37.695
Diego: Then what about Sandman?

00:22:39.195 - 00:22:51.055
Joshua: Yeah, I mean, well, he is, well, I don't know, because you obviously see him in his human form even after he's like become Sandman.

00:22:51.055 - 00:22:55.595
Diego: Yeah, some somewhat similar to Clayface where he can retake a human form.

00:22:55.595 - 00:22:57.955
Joshua: But is he but he's still made out of sand.

00:22:57.955 - 00:23:01.975
Joshua: Yeah, it's just like he's kind of molding the sand to be what he looked like before.

00:23:02.735 - 00:23:03.515
Joshua: Yeah.

00:23:03.515 - 00:23:13.355
Diego: And I guess, you know, with Sandman, you get the whole thing of like that extension of earth, right?

00:23:13.355 - 00:23:21.475
Diego: Because sand isn't necessarily like, sand is more crystals than it is soil.

00:23:21.495 - 00:23:21.895
Diego: Right?

00:23:21.895 - 00:23:22.315
Joshua: Yeah.

00:23:22.315 - 00:23:25.015
Diego: That's why you get like glass from sand.

00:23:25.135 - 00:23:25.275
Joshua: Yeah.

00:23:25.275 - 00:23:25.715
Joshua: When you...

00:23:25.715 - 00:23:26.655
Diego: Firing sand.

00:23:26.655 - 00:23:27.615
Diego: Melted.

00:23:27.795 - 00:23:33.855
Diego: So he's like one of those kind of offshoot characters, but he behaves very similar to earth, you know?

00:23:33.855 - 00:23:35.915
Diego: Like if you were to see...

00:23:37.255 - 00:23:41.955
Diego: Who is like actually, let me see, who is actual like made out of earth?

00:23:42.975 - 00:23:45.195
Diego: I'm trying to think back to see if I have anybody on my list.

00:23:45.195 - 00:23:46.235
Diego: I actually don't think...

00:23:46.235 - 00:23:48.615
Joshua: I mean, well, the thing is probably the only one, honestly.

00:23:49.355 - 00:23:55.075
Diego: No, but I'm talking about like earth, like somebody who can like change shape and stuff like that, but truly made out of earth.

00:23:55.075 - 00:23:58.135
Diego: Oh, there's not a lot come to think of it.

00:23:58.135 - 00:24:00.535
Joshua: Yeah, I don't I can't really think of anyone.

00:24:00.535 - 00:24:01.075
Diego: Hmm.

00:24:01.075 - 00:24:02.615
Diego: Interesting.

00:24:02.615 - 00:24:06.955
Diego: But yeah, I guess well, I guess salmon is the closest thing to that in a way.

00:24:06.955 - 00:24:14.455
Diego: But yeah, salmon, I think is a good example to he can also like turn his limbs into all sorts of weapons, you know, like clubbing, clobbery weapons and stuff like that.

00:24:14.455 - 00:24:19.015
Joshua: I wonder, would he like be able to turn himself into glass?

00:24:19.795 - 00:24:20.155
Diego: Good question.

00:24:20.155 - 00:24:27.675
Joshua: Like, is there ever, has there ever been like a one-off comic or just like a comic run where he...

00:24:27.695 - 00:24:37.195
Diego: I am almost certain that I've seen that in the comics, but it's not that he turns himself into glass, is that that's a way to neutralize him by exposing him to intense fire.

00:24:37.195 - 00:24:43.335
Diego: Yeah, because at that point, you're kind of changing the composition of the thing, right, of his body.

00:24:44.055 - 00:24:51.415
Diego: So he can't manipulate in solid glass or crystal form, I guess, would be the thing there.

00:24:51.415 - 00:24:55.415
Joshua: Someone I wanted to mention again is somebody from Naruto.

00:24:55.415 - 00:25:00.875
Joshua: He's a part of the main villainous group, the Akatsuki.

00:25:00.875 - 00:25:02.515
Joshua: His name's Daidara.

00:25:02.515 - 00:25:03.175
Joshua: And...

00:25:03.175 - 00:25:03.975
Diego: Daidara?

00:25:03.975 - 00:25:04.875
Joshua: Yeah.

00:25:04.875 - 00:25:25.875
Joshua: What he does is he has this, he has this hand, er, no, he has this mouth on his hand, like on the palm of his hand, and he like puts clay into that mouth, and that mouth like chews up the clay and spits it out as like some kind of creation.

00:25:25.875 - 00:25:37.515
Joshua: And one that he uses is a bird, like he'll put some clay in and then he'll spit it out, and then it'll like shoot out like an actual, just big clay-made bird, and he can like ride it to get away from the heroes or whatever.

00:25:37.515 - 00:25:38.815
Diego: Huh, interesting.

00:25:38.815 - 00:25:39.795
Joshua: Yeah.

00:25:39.815 - 00:25:41.715
Diego: And they come to life.

00:25:41.715 - 00:25:42.955
Joshua: Mm-hmm, yeah.

00:25:42.955 - 00:25:44.255
Diego: That's really mystical.

00:25:44.255 - 00:25:50.735
Joshua: Another one from Naruto that you can't do an Earth-based episode without mentioning is Gaara.

00:25:50.735 - 00:25:51.135
Diego: Okay.

00:25:51.135 - 00:25:56.055
Joshua: Gaara is a sand controller, kind of like Sandman, but he's not made out of sand.

00:25:56.055 - 00:25:56.515
Diego: Okay.

00:25:56.515 - 00:26:06.955
Joshua: And in the Chunin exams, which is like the first kind of major arc in Naruto, is he's like the most powerful person there.

00:26:06.955 - 00:26:14.415
Joshua: Like nobody can really defeat him until Rock Lee, who doesn't have anything to do with Earth, defeats him.

00:26:14.415 - 00:26:24.935
Joshua: But his sand is like so powerful, and he was the biggest threat in the show at that point, and he was just a kid.

00:26:24.935 - 00:26:25.275
Diego: Okay.

00:26:25.275 - 00:26:31.115
Joshua: So he has this technique where he like entraps...

00:26:31.115 - 00:26:32.535
Joshua: No, that's definitely not a word.

00:26:32.535 - 00:26:33.275
Diego: Entraps, yeah.

00:26:33.575 - 00:26:44.355
Joshua: Oh, yeah, where he entraps someone in like this sand coffin, and he just like, he like shuts it tight, and he kind of just like kills them instantly.

00:26:44.355 - 00:26:46.055
Diego: Like suffocating them?

00:26:46.055 - 00:26:47.915
Joshua: Just like crushing them.

00:26:47.915 - 00:26:49.155
Diego: Oh, damn, really?

00:26:49.155 - 00:26:49.815
Joshua: Yeah.

00:26:49.815 - 00:26:50.715
Diego: Yikes.

00:26:50.715 - 00:26:51.655
Diego: That's dark.

00:26:51.655 - 00:26:57.615
Joshua: Yeah, but he's probably the strongest, one of the strongest Earth users in Naruto.

00:26:59.415 - 00:27:00.315
Diego: Okay.

00:27:01.555 - 00:27:07.215
Diego: Um, that's not Captain Planet, because he's our hero.

00:27:09.755 - 00:27:13.035
Diego: He's still on, on, on, on, uh, Moti, huh?

00:27:13.035 - 00:27:14.715
Joshua: That's, that's not his name.

00:27:14.715 - 00:27:15.595
Diego: It is, no, I think it is.

00:27:15.595 - 00:27:15.835
Joshua: Oh, it is?

00:27:15.835 - 00:27:16.655
Joshua: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:16.655 - 00:27:17.475
Diego: The Heart Guy?

00:27:17.475 - 00:27:17.735
Joshua: Yeah.

00:27:17.735 - 00:27:18.375
Diego: Yeah.

00:27:18.375 - 00:27:23.875
Diego: Now, the guy that we were incorrectly using his name for Moti was Kwami.

00:27:23.875 - 00:27:24.715
Joshua: Kwami, yeah.

00:27:24.715 - 00:27:27.155
Diego: Yeah, Kwami is the guy who controls Earth.

00:27:27.395 - 00:27:29.455
Diego: So he is now relevant to this conversation.

00:27:29.455 - 00:27:31.575
Joshua: And he's not actually useless.

00:27:31.575 - 00:27:34.155
Diego: He's not, he's very useful, man.

00:27:34.155 - 00:27:43.195
Diego: Yeah, with his ring of Earth, he's able to control Earth and use it in a lot of the ways that a lot of these other characters are able to use it, like weaponize it in ways.

00:27:45.075 - 00:27:52.515
Diego: I feel like he normally, though, used it to entrap people or to create barriers.

00:27:53.175 - 00:27:56.515
Diego: I don't really, probably because Captain Planet was like a kid's cartoon.

00:27:56.515 - 00:28:01.295
Diego: I don't really remember him much, like, you know, shooting a rock projectile.

00:28:01.295 - 00:28:01.615
Joshua: Yeah.

00:28:01.615 - 00:28:05.275
Joshua: Somebody to try to do the kids in Captain Planet.

00:28:05.275 - 00:28:11.235
Joshua: Like, do they come together like Voltron and like create, do they like merge like Shazam?

00:28:11.235 - 00:28:15.675
Diego: They shoot the energy from their rings and it unites in the sky and creates Captain Planet.

00:28:15.675 - 00:28:19.075
Joshua: So Captain Planet isn't like all of them merged together?

00:28:19.395 - 00:28:20.135
Diego: No, no, no, no.

00:28:20.135 - 00:28:22.355
Diego: They're still like separate when Captain Planet is active.

00:28:22.355 - 00:28:25.175
Joshua: Wait, so does Mahti shoot his heart ring?

00:28:25.175 - 00:28:25.815
Diego: Of course.

00:28:25.815 - 00:28:33.455
Diego: He, I mean, well, like without heart, Captain Planet is, you know, incomplete, heartless.

00:28:33.455 - 00:28:35.455
Diego: Could you be so heartless?

00:28:38.715 - 00:28:47.495
Diego: Anyway, but yeah, that's we can't, you know, cross this topic without mentioning our boy Kwami from Captain Planet.

00:28:48.135 - 00:28:52.915
Joshua: And I'm sorry that we disrespected you by calling you the hard guy.

00:28:52.915 - 00:28:55.255
Diego: We did not put respect on your name, bro.

00:28:55.255 - 00:28:57.375
Diego: We did not totally, totally disdain.

00:28:57.375 - 00:28:58.975
Diego: We're so sorry.

00:28:58.975 - 00:29:02.295
Diego: All right, let's talk about a couple of people who can control Earth.

00:29:02.295 - 00:29:06.535
Diego: They're not necessarily made of Earth or anything, but they can control it in an interesting way.

00:29:06.535 - 00:29:12.415
Diego: So one of them is Quake from Agents of Shield, Daisy Johnson, aka.

00:29:12.415 - 00:29:15.555
Joshua: I forgot all about, I forgot all about what goes on in that show.

00:29:15.555 - 00:29:15.935
Diego: Really?

00:29:15.935 - 00:29:16.155
Joshua: Yeah.

00:29:16.595 - 00:29:19.715
Diego: Well, she happened towards the end.

00:29:19.715 - 00:29:23.195
Diego: She had the partnership going on with Ghost Rider.

00:29:23.195 - 00:29:23.955
Joshua: Really?

00:29:23.955 - 00:29:24.495
Diego: Yeah.

00:29:24.495 - 00:29:26.675
Diego: By that point, she had assumed the hero persona.

00:29:26.675 - 00:29:28.675
Diego: She was no longer working for Shield.

00:29:28.675 - 00:29:34.275
Diego: And her whole thing is that what she controls really is vibrations.

00:29:34.275 - 00:29:37.235
Diego: And so what she can cause is like earthquakes and that sort of thing.

00:29:37.235 - 00:29:42.895
Diego: So I think that's probably the extent of her connection to the Earth.

00:29:42.895 - 00:29:45.235
Diego: But she took on the name Quake and stuff like that.

00:29:45.335 - 00:29:51.075
Diego: And now there's someone else who can cause earthquakes, but also do more than that.

00:29:51.075 - 00:29:54.415
Diego: And it's this character from Mortal Kombat called Tremor.

00:29:54.455 - 00:29:55.595
Diego: He's from MKX.

00:29:55.595 - 00:29:56.915
Diego: Do you remember?

00:29:56.915 - 00:29:58.035
Joshua: I don't know.

00:29:58.035 - 00:30:04.015
Diego: OK, so Tremor is kind of like a ninja character, like Sub-Zero, scorpion, Reptile, et cetera.

00:30:04.015 - 00:30:04.235
Joshua: Yeah.

00:30:04.235 - 00:30:04.795
Diego: All those guys.

00:30:04.795 - 00:30:07.215
Joshua: And he is his like color brown.

00:30:07.215 - 00:30:07.655
Diego: Yeah.

00:30:07.655 - 00:30:08.115
Diego: Oh, yeah.

00:30:08.115 - 00:30:10.175
Diego: He's all like Earth and looking.

00:30:10.175 - 00:30:12.955
Diego: He like he looks like he's covered in Earth somehow.

00:30:13.415 - 00:30:16.675
Diego: And I think he has like cracks and stuff like it was rock or dirt.

00:30:16.675 - 00:30:17.635
Diego: Yeah.

00:30:17.635 - 00:30:25.155
Diego: And so he does the same thing that he could do the same thing that Quake does in the Agents of SHIELDER in the Marvel comics, where she can cause earthquakes and whatnot.

00:30:25.155 - 00:30:29.715
Diego: But this guy actually like throws projectiles out of rock and stone and stuff.

00:30:30.055 - 00:30:32.255
Joshua: Like spikes or something like that?

00:30:32.255 - 00:30:36.435
Diego: Yeah, spikes and like just boulders type things at you.

00:30:36.435 - 00:30:41.595
Diego: So he's definitely like a Terra Kinesis type of character, you know.

00:30:44.995 - 00:30:48.795
Diego: There's a lot of people in the comics, in Marvel comics.

00:30:48.795 - 00:30:50.495
Joshua: It does look like he's like made out of rock.

00:30:50.495 - 00:30:52.855
Diego: Yeah, you see what I mean?

00:30:52.855 - 00:30:57.615
Diego: There's this character called Rockslide, who was part of the X-Men at some point.

00:30:57.615 - 00:31:01.655
Diego: And he has like, he looks kind of rocky also.

00:31:01.655 - 00:31:03.315
Diego: And he has the ability to like...

00:31:03.315 - 00:31:04.275
Joshua: Rockslide?

00:31:04.275 - 00:31:05.515
Diego: Yeah, Rockslide.

00:31:05.515 - 00:31:13.095
Diego: He has the ability to like summon rock and stone and dirt and stuff like that to himself to create like, almost like armor around himself.

00:31:13.095 - 00:31:14.555
Diego: Yeah.

00:31:14.555 - 00:31:16.915
Diego: So that guy is kind of interesting in that sense.

00:31:16.915 - 00:31:17.995
Joshua: Oh, he looks pretty cool.

00:31:17.995 - 00:31:18.575
Diego: Yeah, yeah.

00:31:18.575 - 00:31:20.635
Diego: He has a pretty cool look to him.

00:31:20.635 - 00:31:21.435
Diego: I don't know why they...

00:31:21.435 - 00:31:26.955
Diego: I don't know where that character went or what they did with him, but yeah, he's pretty dope.

00:31:26.955 - 00:31:30.815
Diego: There's another character called Petra.

00:31:30.815 - 00:31:33.115
Diego: I think this is in Marvel Comics too.

00:31:33.115 - 00:31:35.055
Diego: She could liquefy Earth.

00:31:36.095 - 00:31:37.015
Diego: She got like her...

00:31:37.015 - 00:31:38.235
Diego: She's also a mutant.

00:31:38.235 - 00:31:39.035
Joshua: Liquid Earth?

00:31:39.555 - 00:31:42.755
Diego: Liquefy Earth, like make Earth molten or liquefy Earth.

00:31:42.755 - 00:31:44.415
Diego: You know like quicksand?

00:31:44.415 - 00:31:45.075
Joshua: Oh, yeah.

00:31:45.075 - 00:31:46.655
Diego: Like that.

00:31:46.795 - 00:31:52.155
Diego: When she discovered her powers, you know how like mutants powers in the comics and stuff activate when you're in like your teens?

00:31:52.155 - 00:31:53.415
Joshua: Yeah, like puberty.

00:31:53.415 - 00:31:54.295
Diego: Yeah.

00:31:54.295 - 00:32:09.915
Diego: So when her powers, her exagene or whatever activated, she was like in the park with her foster parents or foster dad, and they were like walking and talking in the park on the ground, on the dirt, and she didn't realize that he was no longer with her.

00:32:09.915 - 00:32:13.535
Diego: And when she turned around, he was like halfway stuck into the ground.

00:32:13.535 - 00:32:14.535
Diego: Oh.

00:32:14.535 - 00:32:15.975
Diego: Yeah.

00:32:15.975 - 00:32:23.315
Diego: And I think he ended up dying or something like that because she didn't, I mean, she just got the power, the ability so she couldn't control him.

00:32:23.315 - 00:32:24.075
Joshua: Yeah.

00:32:24.075 - 00:32:28.095
Diego: And then she hid in like Central Park for months or something like that.

00:32:28.095 - 00:32:32.055
Joshua: Did everyone who walked past her like sing into the ground?

00:32:32.055 - 00:32:32.475
Diego: No, no.

00:32:32.475 - 00:32:33.795
Diego: She was trying to like isolate herself.

00:32:33.795 - 00:32:35.735
Diego: You know, Central Park is like a massive mess.

00:32:35.835 - 00:32:36.695
Joshua: It's like a town.

00:32:36.695 - 00:32:37.315
Diego: Yeah.

00:32:37.315 - 00:32:43.935
Diego: And so she was like hiding somewhere out there and created like this whole rock cave for herself to hide inside of this dome.

00:32:43.935 - 00:32:51.995
Diego: And what she would do, she discovered the ability, which is a really interesting thing that I haven't seen anywhere anyone else do as like earth based powers.

00:32:51.995 - 00:32:55.675
Diego: She discovered the ability to turn coal into diamond.

00:32:55.715 - 00:32:56.435
Joshua: Coal?

00:32:56.435 - 00:32:56.675
Diego: Yeah.

00:32:56.675 - 00:32:57.415
Joshua: Into diamond?

00:32:57.415 - 00:32:58.155
Joshua: How?

00:32:58.155 - 00:32:59.555
Diego: That's how diamonds are formed.

00:33:00.115 - 00:33:00.775
Joshua: Oh, really?

00:33:00.775 - 00:33:01.335
Diego: Yeah.

00:33:01.335 - 00:33:02.135
Joshua: Oh, well, yeah.

00:33:02.135 - 00:33:05.255
Diego: It caves underground for like, I don't know, hundreds of years.

00:33:05.255 - 00:33:06.775
Joshua: Being, when they're being like, compressed?

00:33:06.775 - 00:33:11.055
Diego: Yeah, the pressure of it, it slowly presses the coal into diamonds.

00:33:11.055 - 00:33:14.015
Joshua: Kind of like metamorphic rocks.

00:33:14.015 - 00:33:16.115
Diego: In a way, yeah.

00:33:16.115 - 00:33:20.115
Diego: And so what she started doing to survive, because she was like a teenager.

00:33:20.115 - 00:33:20.435
Joshua: Yeah.

00:33:20.435 - 00:33:23.855
Diego: What she started doing to survive was she started pressing coal into diamonds.

00:33:23.855 - 00:33:24.855
Joshua: Did she start selling them?

00:33:24.855 - 00:33:25.755
Diego: Selling them, yeah.

00:33:25.755 - 00:33:27.495
Diego: She would go to pawn shops and sell them.

00:33:27.495 - 00:33:29.195
Diego: And that's how she would like eat and stuff like that.

00:33:29.415 - 00:33:30.535
Joshua: Did she become like rich?

00:33:30.535 - 00:33:33.035
Joshua: Like, was she, she was saying literal diamonds?

00:33:33.035 - 00:33:34.535
Diego: Yeah.

00:33:34.535 - 00:33:35.755
Diego: But no, she didn't become rich.

00:33:35.755 - 00:33:42.335
Diego: Eventually, she was recruited into the Exavius Academy and like taught to use her powers and stuff like that.

00:33:42.335 - 00:33:42.855
Diego: So that's her.

00:33:42.855 - 00:33:45.095
Diego: Her name is Petra.

00:33:45.095 - 00:33:48.615
Diego: Then you've got this character who was one of the heralds of Galactus.

00:33:48.615 - 00:33:50.435
Diego: His name is Terax the Tamer.

00:33:50.995 - 00:33:53.695
Diego: He also had like Tera Kinetic powers and stuff.

00:33:53.695 - 00:33:58.975
Joshua: I feel like Marvel loves having characters like with repetition in their names.

00:33:58.975 - 00:33:59.955
Diego: Why?

00:33:59.955 - 00:34:05.115
Joshua: With like Peter Parker, Bruce Banner, Terax the Tamer.

00:34:05.115 - 00:34:06.675
Diego: Oh, like alliteration type things?

00:34:06.675 - 00:34:07.275
Joshua: Yeah, alliteration.

00:34:07.275 - 00:34:08.315
Joshua: That's what I meant.

00:34:08.315 - 00:34:08.815
Diego: Yeah, you're right.

00:34:08.815 - 00:34:09.955
Diego: You're right.

00:34:11.355 - 00:34:13.135
Diego: Drax the Destroyer.

00:34:13.135 - 00:34:13.875
Joshua: Yeah.

00:34:13.875 - 00:34:16.675
Diego: Then you've got another Marvel character.

00:34:16.675 - 00:34:18.795
Diego: He is the third Summer's brother.

00:34:19.695 - 00:34:20.815
Joshua: There's a third Summer's brother?

00:34:20.815 - 00:34:22.095
Diego: There's a third Summer's brother.

00:34:22.095 - 00:34:24.615
Diego: You already know scott Summers was Cyclops.

00:34:24.615 - 00:34:27.715
Diego: You already know Alex Summers was Havoc.

00:34:27.715 - 00:34:35.115
Diego: There is a Gabriel Summers, who was revealed at some point in the comics, and he is known as Vulcan.

00:34:35.115 - 00:34:35.775
Joshua: Vulcan.

00:34:35.775 - 00:34:36.135
Diego: Yeah.

00:34:36.135 - 00:34:42.895
Diego: And amongst many other powers, one of the one thing that he did is that he absorbed Petra.

00:34:43.235 - 00:34:51.595
Diego: He absorbed these two or three other mutants and took on their powers.

00:34:51.595 - 00:35:00.655
Diego: So at some point, he's apparently the most powerful of the three Summers brothers, which are all like Omega level mutants, I think, or at least Cyclops and Vulcan are.

00:35:00.655 - 00:35:04.955
Diego: But yeah, he absorbed her and eventually took on her powers.

00:35:04.955 - 00:35:05.955
Diego: So that's kind of messed up.

00:35:06.395 - 00:35:07.915
Joshua: Yeah.

00:35:07.915 - 00:35:11.055
Joshua: Wait, like rogue style or like absorb absorbed?

00:35:11.055 - 00:35:13.235
Diego: Yeah, like they were no more from what I remember.

00:35:13.235 - 00:35:15.715
Diego: Well, yeah, pretty sad.

00:35:15.715 - 00:35:17.695
Diego: There's this other character.

00:35:17.695 - 00:35:19.635
Joshua: They're the fourth Summers brother.

00:35:19.635 - 00:35:22.455
Diego: No, no, there's only three, I think.

00:35:22.455 - 00:35:26.435
Diego: There's another character in Marvel called Magma.

00:35:28.255 - 00:35:35.935
Diego: She was introduced in the New Mutants comics, and she can summon magma, and she can control earthquakes.

00:35:35.935 - 00:35:38.815
Diego: So she can cause them or she can stop them.

00:35:38.815 - 00:35:48.855
Diego: And since she has that similar thing to the character from Avatar that you were mentioning, the one who could feel the ground vibrations.

00:35:49.235 - 00:35:50.535
Diego: Yeah, she has that same thing.

00:35:50.535 - 00:35:57.795
Diego: So she can tell from miles and miles and miles away if there's going to be an earthquake that's about to happen.

00:35:57.795 - 00:36:05.035
Joshua: Yeah, Toph actually, she used that whenever Team Avatar was sleeping or when they were waiting for something.

00:36:05.035 - 00:36:10.875
Joshua: She would use that to be like, someone's coming, someone's seeking up on us.

00:36:10.875 - 00:36:15.175
Diego: Yeah, so she's actually prevented earthquakes and tragedies and stuff like that.

00:36:15.175 - 00:36:18.975
Diego: And she can cause earthquakes if she's in the middle of a fight and it calls for that.

00:36:18.975 - 00:36:25.635
Diego: But I think summoning magma is one of the most badass things that I could ever imagine related to Earth, man.

00:36:25.635 - 00:36:34.615
Diego: Because it's one thing to clobber somebody with chunks of Earth or rock, it's a whole other thing to coat them, shoot them with molten rock.

00:36:34.615 - 00:36:35.215
Joshua: Yeah.

00:36:35.215 - 00:36:37.255
Diego: That's brutal.

00:36:37.255 - 00:36:38.435
Diego: So cool.

00:36:38.435 - 00:36:41.335
Diego: I want that to be my Earth-based power.

00:36:41.335 - 00:36:50.155
Diego: And speaking of Earth things, did you know that zodiac signs are tied to the different Four Elements?

00:36:50.155 - 00:36:50.315
Joshua: Yeah.

00:36:50.315 - 00:36:52.815
Joshua: I know there's like water signs and like fire signs.

00:36:52.815 - 00:36:58.715
Diego: We forgot to mention the water signs are Cancer, scorpio, and Pisces.

00:36:58.715 - 00:36:59.795
Joshua: Wait.

00:36:59.795 - 00:37:02.475
Joshua: I thought, wait, what are you then?

00:37:02.475 - 00:37:04.595
Joshua: Because isn't Aquarius like an air sign?

00:37:04.595 - 00:37:07.355
Joshua: Isn't Aquarius like a girl holding a jug of water or something?

00:37:07.355 - 00:37:07.715
Diego: Yeah.

00:37:07.715 - 00:37:09.255
Diego: But it's an air sign, not water.

00:37:09.255 - 00:37:10.855
Joshua: Oh, I'm a fire sign, I think.

00:37:10.855 - 00:37:11.355
Diego: Are you?

00:37:11.355 - 00:37:11.735
Joshua: Yeah.

00:37:11.735 - 00:37:12.495
Diego: What are you again?

00:37:12.495 - 00:37:12.915
Joshua: Aries.

00:37:14.315 - 00:37:17.995
Diego: So earth signs are Taurus, Virgo, and capricorn.

00:37:17.995 - 00:37:18.835
Diego: That's your mom.

00:37:18.835 - 00:37:19.975
Joshua: capricorn.

00:37:19.975 - 00:37:21.015
Joshua: She's a capricorn?

00:37:21.015 - 00:37:21.715
Diego: She's a Taurus.

00:37:21.715 - 00:37:22.415
Joshua: Oh, okay.

00:37:22.415 - 00:37:23.795
Diego: Yeah.

00:37:23.795 - 00:37:24.695
Diego: Earth signs.

00:37:24.695 - 00:37:27.215
Diego: Those are the earth signs, just in case you're curious.

00:37:27.215 - 00:37:30.915
Diego: Well, I guess you would know if you're into the zodiac and stuff.

00:37:30.915 - 00:37:31.435
Diego: Let me see.

00:37:31.435 - 00:37:33.735
Diego: Who else I got, man?

00:37:33.735 - 00:37:35.715
Diego: There's some character called Volcana.

00:37:35.715 - 00:37:42.015
Diego: She, I think I remember seeing her in the Justice League animated series from back in the day.

00:37:44.015 - 00:37:47.455
Joshua: Someone, I want to mention Emma Frost.

00:37:47.455 - 00:37:49.375
Joshua: I feel like she's kind of like...

00:37:49.415 - 00:37:51.015
Diego: Oh, Crystal.

00:37:52.095 - 00:37:57.495
Joshua: I feel like she's kind of like Colossus because she can turn her skin into diamond, right?

00:37:57.495 - 00:37:58.015
Joshua: Yeah.

00:37:58.015 - 00:38:02.075
Joshua: And she was recently added into Fortnite, and she's a boss that you can kill.

00:38:02.075 - 00:38:02.915
Joshua: She's part of the Battle Pass.

00:38:02.915 - 00:38:03.715
Diego: Oh, good catch, man.

00:38:03.715 - 00:38:04.575
Diego: I hadn't thought about that.

00:38:04.575 - 00:38:11.455
Diego: But yeah, you're right, because crystals do go into the whole earth category because it is something that is essentially coming from the ground and whatnot.

00:38:11.455 - 00:38:11.935
Joshua: Yeah.

00:38:11.935 - 00:38:12.475
Diego: Yeah, yeah.

00:38:12.615 - 00:38:13.355
Diego: That's a good one.

00:38:13.355 - 00:38:17.615
Diego: I don't know why, but every time that I think of Frost, probably because of the name Frost, I always think of ice.

00:38:17.635 - 00:38:18.635
Joshua: Ice, yeah.

00:38:18.635 - 00:38:20.275
Diego: But not as red as crystals.

00:38:20.275 - 00:38:27.655
Joshua: Yeah, you would definitely think of someone who's named Emma Frost would have ice powers, cryokinetic powers.

00:38:27.655 - 00:38:28.975
Diego: That's what you would think.

00:38:28.975 - 00:38:29.895
Diego: Good job, son.

00:38:29.895 - 00:38:31.855
Diego: Look at you using the kinesises.

00:38:31.855 - 00:38:32.815
Joshua: I did.

00:38:32.815 - 00:38:33.635
Diego: Good job, man.

00:38:33.635 - 00:38:35.215
Diego: I'm so proud.

00:38:36.335 - 00:38:37.395
Diego: You know, I was just thinking that.

00:38:37.555 - 00:38:41.055
Diego: You know how, like, what's this guy's name?

00:38:41.055 - 00:38:42.795
Diego: Darwin, the character from X-Men.

00:38:42.795 - 00:38:44.035
Joshua: Like, what was his name?

00:38:44.035 - 00:38:48.355
Diego: He can evolve immediately to whatever is happening to survive.

00:38:48.355 - 00:38:55.095
Diego: I wonder, I don't know if there's ever been, but like a character who can devolve a creature.

00:38:55.095 - 00:38:56.095
Joshua: I know, actually.

00:38:56.215 - 00:39:03.135
Joshua: Or, well, actually, okay, in the old Mario live action movies.

00:39:03.175 - 00:39:05.775
Diego: Oh, God!

00:39:05.775 - 00:39:07.295
Diego: That ray gun thing?

00:39:07.315 - 00:39:10.535
Joshua: Yeah.

00:39:10.535 - 00:39:17.615
Joshua: When they turned Bowser, like, back into a dinosaur, because humans evolved from dinosaurs in that universe.

00:39:17.615 - 00:39:18.235
Diego: Some.

00:39:18.235 - 00:39:21.295
Diego: The other ones evolved from, like, literal monkeys, apparently.

00:39:21.295 - 00:39:21.635
Joshua: Yeah.

00:39:21.635 - 00:39:24.015
Diego: Because they turned a guy into, like, a monkey.

00:39:24.655 - 00:39:25.635
Diego: Oh, God.

00:39:25.635 - 00:39:26.715
Diego: Well, it's horrible.

00:39:26.715 - 00:39:31.235
Diego: I'm so sorry that we had to remind all of you out there of that movie.

00:39:31.235 - 00:39:33.215
Diego: But yeah, that kind of thing.

00:39:33.215 - 00:39:40.195
Diego: Imagine if they did that to Emma Frost, would she become, like, a little mountain of coal?

00:39:40.195 - 00:39:41.755
Joshua: Maybe, honestly.

00:39:41.755 - 00:39:43.335
Diego: That sort of thing?

00:39:43.335 - 00:39:45.255
Diego: I'm curious.

00:39:45.255 - 00:39:45.515
Diego: All right.

00:39:45.515 - 00:39:51.975
Diego: There's another character that I got introduced through in the Spider-Man comics, which is Molten Man.

00:39:51.975 - 00:39:53.335
Joshua: Molten Man.

00:39:53.475 - 00:39:58.655
Diego: This guy is primarily like metal, like his whole body is basically like molten metal.

00:39:58.655 - 00:40:02.795
Diego: And so you can kind of imagine how he uses that to find stuff like that.

00:40:02.795 - 00:40:08.175
Diego: Also, it was really challenging for Spider-Man because he couldn't web him at all.

00:40:08.175 - 00:40:09.895
Joshua: Would they just melt into his body?

00:40:09.895 - 00:40:11.775
Diego: Or just slip away if he was solid?

00:40:11.975 - 00:40:14.575
Diego: Because he could go into like a solid form.

00:40:14.575 - 00:40:20.375
Diego: And I think at one point he actually became like Earth, molten Earth type thing, like Magma.

00:40:20.375 - 00:40:23.255
Diego: So he was pretty interesting.

00:40:23.255 - 00:40:25.975
Diego: I don't know how you lived life that way.

00:40:25.975 - 00:40:28.335
Joshua: Yeah, wouldn't you like melt through the ground?

00:40:28.335 - 00:40:29.935
Diego: Yeah.

00:40:29.935 - 00:40:30.235
Diego: I don't know.

00:40:30.235 - 00:40:31.415
Diego: I don't get it.

00:40:31.415 - 00:40:33.535
Diego: It's a very complicated life that man lived.

00:40:33.535 - 00:40:36.915
Diego: I guess he could harden himself and like become, you know, whatever.

00:40:36.915 - 00:40:37.935
Diego: But yeah.

00:40:37.935 - 00:40:39.355
Diego: Ninjago.

00:40:39.355 - 00:40:39.975
Joshua: Ninjago.

00:40:39.975 - 00:40:41.895
Diego: Since we were just talking about the cosplay.

00:40:41.895 - 00:40:42.675
Joshua: Who is the Earth guy?

00:40:42.675 - 00:40:43.115
Joshua: Cole.

00:40:43.115 - 00:40:43.875
Joshua: Cole is the Earth guy.

00:40:44.255 - 00:40:44.435
Diego: Yeah.

00:40:44.435 - 00:40:44.915
Joshua: Is it?

00:40:44.915 - 00:40:45.455
Joshua: Yeah.

00:40:45.455 - 00:40:48.355
Joshua: He's the black suited guy.

00:40:48.355 - 00:40:49.935
Diego: Is he the guy that was...

00:40:49.935 - 00:40:52.075
Diego: His mom is Lily?

00:40:52.095 - 00:40:53.375
Joshua: I have no idea.

00:40:53.375 - 00:41:03.175
Diego: At some point, they revealed that like Lily, this character called Lily, who you never see until like a certain point in the show, like in flashbacks, is revealed that she was actually like a massive hero in the past.

00:41:03.175 - 00:41:04.075
Diego: And she could...

00:41:04.075 - 00:41:06.155
Diego: She was like an earthbender type thing.

00:41:06.155 - 00:41:06.975
Diego: Could control Earth.

00:41:06.975 - 00:41:11.075
Diego: So does the Black Ninja actually like control Earth?

00:41:11.075 - 00:41:11.215
Joshua: Yeah.

00:41:11.215 - 00:41:12.075
Joshua: I think he's...

00:41:12.075 - 00:41:12.995
Joshua: Well, I don't know.

00:41:13.055 - 00:41:14.535
Joshua: It's been a while since I've seen that show.

00:41:14.535 - 00:41:16.155
Joshua: I remember I used to be like addicted to it.

00:41:16.155 - 00:41:16.455
Diego: Yeah, man.

00:41:16.935 - 00:41:17.895
Diego: You were into it.

00:41:17.895 - 00:41:18.055
Joshua: Yeah.

00:41:18.055 - 00:41:19.455
Joshua: But I think...

00:41:19.455 - 00:41:19.755
Joshua: I don't know.

00:41:19.755 - 00:41:28.875
Joshua: I think he just kind of like Toph, maybe, in that sense, where you can just kind of like control Earth.

00:41:28.875 - 00:41:31.515
Joshua: He definitely can't create it, I don't think.

00:41:31.515 - 00:41:33.715
Joshua: And he's not like made out of it or anything.

00:41:33.715 - 00:41:37.875
Joshua: But from I think, I'm pretty sure he just kind of controls it.

00:41:37.875 - 00:41:40.015
Joshua: He can like levitate it and like throw it.

00:41:40.715 - 00:41:42.655
Joshua: Obviously, he uses it in fights and stuff like that.

00:41:42.655 - 00:41:43.915
Joshua: So yeah.

00:41:44.255 - 00:41:46.915
Diego: So yeah, kind of what we're talking about.

00:41:48.335 - 00:41:53.575
Diego: There's one character that I'm not sure if he belongs here, but he kind of does depending on the circumstances.

00:41:53.575 - 00:41:58.095
Diego: And that is Absorbing Man in the Marvel comics.

00:41:58.095 - 00:42:05.895
Diego: Absorbing Man is a guy who anything he touches, and whatever material he touches, he can absorb it and become that material.

00:42:06.015 - 00:42:12.635
Diego: He touches like a metal rod or a piece of metal, his hand can turn metallic and now he can hit people with it.

00:42:12.635 - 00:42:14.855
Diego: Same thing with rocks, same thing with whatever.

00:42:14.855 - 00:42:18.395
Diego: So he touches stone, rock, earth, whatever.

00:42:18.395 - 00:42:18.875
Joshua: Yeah.

00:42:18.895 - 00:42:22.255
Joshua: Wasn't he in one of the Hulk movies?

00:42:22.255 - 00:42:23.635
Diego: The Hulk movies?

00:42:23.635 - 00:42:25.495
Joshua: Yeah.

00:42:25.555 - 00:42:29.435
Diego: Oh, is that what Banner's father became in that movie?

00:42:29.435 - 00:42:31.615
Joshua: Yeah, I think so.

00:42:31.615 - 00:42:33.355
Diego: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

00:42:33.355 - 00:42:34.075
Diego: I think you're right.

00:42:34.195 - 00:42:38.115
Diego: He was also, I think he was in the in the Agents of Shield show.

00:42:38.115 - 00:42:38.955
Joshua: Yeah, he was.

00:42:38.975 - 00:42:39.615
Joshua: Yeah, yeah.

00:42:39.615 - 00:42:41.015
Diego: Yeah.

00:42:41.015 - 00:42:43.375
Diego: Anyway, yeah, that's absorbing man for you.

00:42:43.375 - 00:42:46.335
Diego: And then Pokemon.

00:42:47.755 - 00:42:52.495
Diego: There are different classes of Pokemon, and a lot of them are tied to the Four Elements.

00:42:52.515 - 00:42:56.995
Diego: And there's several Pokemon that are kind of like rock based or have rock powers.

00:42:57.075 - 00:42:59.095
Diego: You have, you remember Geodude?

00:42:59.095 - 00:43:02.955
Diego: I think I was like a head with two arms floating.

00:43:02.955 - 00:43:04.575
Diego: I made a rock.

00:43:04.575 - 00:43:06.015
Joshua: Yeah, yeah.

00:43:06.015 - 00:43:08.475
Diego: He's like one of the first Pokemon that you see in the show.

00:43:08.475 - 00:43:09.295
Joshua: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:09.295 - 00:43:09.955
Joshua: I know.

00:43:09.955 - 00:43:12.955
Diego: Yeah, I'm pretty sure he has like some kind of power.

00:43:12.955 - 00:43:18.555
Diego: There's also a Pokemon called Golem, and he's like a rock troll looking dude.

00:43:18.555 - 00:43:19.935
Diego: He also has rock powers.

00:43:19.935 - 00:43:21.555
Diego: There's also Onix.

00:43:21.555 - 00:43:23.795
Diego: Remember that big rock snake?

00:43:23.795 - 00:43:25.215
Joshua: Yeah, yeah, I do.

00:43:25.215 - 00:43:25.735
Diego: There's that guy.

00:43:26.155 - 00:43:29.475
Diego: There's a character of a Pokemon called Roly-Coly.

00:43:29.475 - 00:43:31.475
Diego: He's like a coal based guy.

00:43:31.475 - 00:43:39.175
Joshua: You know that guy who, I don't know, I forgot what it's called, but it's the Pokemon that kind of looks like Char...

00:43:39.175 - 00:43:39.635
Joshua: I don't know.

00:43:39.895 - 00:43:42.175
Joshua: What's the first stage of Char?

00:43:42.175 - 00:43:42.755
Diego: Charmander?

00:43:42.755 - 00:43:48.335
Joshua: Yeah, he kind of looks like Charmander, and he has like an animal skull on his head.

00:43:48.375 - 00:43:49.655
Joshua: He has like a club.

00:43:49.655 - 00:43:51.095
Diego: I think he's a fire Pokemon though.

00:43:51.675 - 00:43:52.195
Joshua: Really?

00:43:52.195 - 00:43:52.535
Diego: Yeah.

00:43:52.535 - 00:43:53.875
Diego: Look at me talking like I know Pokemon.

00:43:53.875 - 00:43:55.315
Diego: I have no clue.

00:43:55.315 - 00:43:55.635
Diego: I don't know.

00:43:55.635 - 00:43:58.895
Diego: For some reason, I kind of remember that guy holding a torch.

00:43:58.895 - 00:44:01.355
Joshua: I'm pretty sure he's holding like a club.

00:44:01.355 - 00:44:02.795
Diego: Is it a club?

00:44:02.795 - 00:44:04.315
Diego: Maybe you're right.

00:44:04.315 - 00:44:05.295
Diego: You could be right.

00:44:05.295 - 00:44:09.495
Diego: I'm sure like Pokemon fans are out there, like all you noobs.

00:44:09.815 - 00:44:12.495
Diego: You put me to shame.

00:44:12.495 - 00:44:12.795
Diego: Okay.

00:44:12.795 - 00:44:14.395
Diego: I think...

00:44:14.395 - 00:44:16.355
Diego: Let's talk about the...

00:44:16.355 - 00:44:25.075
Diego: What is probably, I think, one of the cooler offshoots of the earthbending, and that is the metallokinesis thing, like the metal characters.

00:44:25.075 - 00:44:31.815
Diego: Of course, you have to start thinking about like, what classifies a metallokinetic person?

00:44:31.815 - 00:44:35.055
Diego: Is it any kind of control over metal?

00:44:35.055 - 00:44:38.635
Diego: Because of course, then you start wondering about Magneto.

00:44:38.635 - 00:44:41.795
Diego: He's a master of magnetism, out of metal.

00:44:41.795 - 00:44:42.635
Joshua: Yeah, magnetism.

00:44:42.635 - 00:44:50.355
Diego: But immediately, by being a master of magnetism, I mean, he's kind of a metal guy.

00:44:50.495 - 00:44:54.535
Joshua: I mean, when you think about it, though, like, you know how?

00:44:54.535 - 00:45:04.595
Joshua: Well, I don't know if this ever happened to you guys, but you know how, like, when you're trying to stick something to the fridge and it doesn't stick because it's not a magnetic metal?

00:45:04.595 - 00:45:06.995
Joshua: Can you control those types of metal?

00:45:08.835 - 00:45:11.115
Joshua: Can you control non-magnetic metals?

00:45:12.335 - 00:45:15.455
Diego: No, no, no, he wouldn't be able to.

00:45:16.515 - 00:45:17.475
Diego: I don't think so.

00:45:17.475 - 00:45:18.115
Diego: So he's limited.

00:45:18.115 - 00:45:19.595
Diego: So you're saying he's not a metallokinetic?

00:45:20.395 - 00:45:21.835
Joshua: I'm saying he's not, yeah.

00:45:21.835 - 00:45:23.015
Joshua: I'm disproving Magneto.

00:45:23.015 - 00:45:25.135
Diego: So you're saying you could beat Magneto in a fight?

00:45:25.195 - 00:45:26.375
Joshua: Yeah, I would.

00:45:26.375 - 00:45:28.395
Diego: By throwing a refrigerator at him?

00:45:28.395 - 00:45:29.575
Joshua: Yeah, honestly.

00:45:29.795 - 00:45:34.155
Joshua: I would like throw like a fridge magnet at him.

00:45:34.155 - 00:45:35.795
Joshua: Oh, no, he wouldn't be able to control that.

00:45:35.795 - 00:45:36.275
Diego: Good Lord.

00:45:36.275 - 00:45:44.295
Joshua: I would just like, I would just pick up a fridge with my pure human, like indomitable human spirit and just like chuck it at him and he would just die.

00:45:44.295 - 00:45:45.395
Diego: That's amazing.

00:45:45.395 - 00:45:51.375
Diego: Well, there is, so recently, ladies and gentlemen, Joshua finally started reading Ultimate Comics.

00:45:51.375 - 00:45:51.895
Joshua: I did.

00:45:51.895 - 00:45:53.695
Diego: I didn't pay him to do it.

00:45:53.695 - 00:45:58.075
Diego: I didn't even bug him or bully him into doing it.

00:45:58.075 - 00:45:59.655
Diego: He just decided to do it one day.

00:45:59.655 - 00:46:06.055
Diego: I think we were having a conversation and you were talking to me about how a lot of people say that the Ultimate Comics are whack.

00:46:06.055 - 00:46:07.475
Joshua: Yeah.

00:46:07.475 - 00:46:10.255
Diego: And I don't know why people would say that.

00:46:10.815 - 00:46:16.415
Diego: I don't know that anybody who actually read those comics or the majority of those comics would think that because they're pretty great comics.

00:46:16.535 - 00:46:20.175
Diego: But now that you're reading them real quick, what do you think so far?

00:46:20.175 - 00:46:21.075
Joshua: They're pretty cool.

00:46:21.075 - 00:46:26.655
Joshua: I mean, they are like the first, some of the first comics I've really read.

00:46:28.175 - 00:46:32.755
Joshua: So I don't know if once I read non-Ultimate Comics, I'm going to think that they're terrible.

00:46:32.895 - 00:46:34.995
Joshua: I don't think I will because they're pretty good.

00:46:34.995 - 00:46:35.695
Diego: Yeah.

00:46:35.695 - 00:46:37.055
Diego: Stories are well written and stuff.

00:46:37.135 - 00:46:37.415
Joshua: Yeah.

00:46:37.415 - 00:46:41.795
Joshua: I mean, it's mainly people were talking about how the Ultimate Universe is bad.

00:46:41.795 - 00:46:45.815
Joshua: It's mainly about the Ultimates, like the Ultimate Avengers.

00:46:45.815 - 00:46:46.235
Diego: Right.

00:46:46.235 - 00:46:47.615
Joshua: So I don't know.

00:46:47.615 - 00:46:48.155
Joshua: Once I get to that-

00:46:48.155 - 00:46:48.675
Diego: You'll see.

00:46:48.675 - 00:46:48.875
Diego: Yeah.

00:46:48.875 - 00:46:50.235
Diego: You'll see what you think.

00:46:50.235 - 00:46:56.615
Diego: But there is somebody in the Ultimate Universe who is revealed to control Metal.

00:46:56.615 - 00:46:57.175
Joshua: Who?

00:46:57.175 - 00:46:57.835
Diego: I'm not going to tell you.

00:46:57.835 - 00:46:58.455
Diego: I don't want to spoil it.

00:46:58.455 - 00:46:59.515
Joshua: Oh, okay.

00:46:59.515 - 00:47:00.815
Diego: It's pretty important.

00:47:00.815 - 00:47:04.715
Diego: So I'm curious to see when you get to that, what you think of that little reveal.

00:47:05.615 - 00:47:07.455
Diego: Hey, I just thought of something.

00:47:07.455 - 00:47:08.455
Diego: My Hero Academia.

00:47:08.455 - 00:47:09.775
Diego: We haven't really talked anything at all.

00:47:09.775 - 00:47:13.115
Diego: And there's a whole bunch of people with quirks that control all sorts of things.

00:47:13.115 - 00:47:15.615
Diego: So like you got a couple of people in there.

00:47:15.615 - 00:47:18.855
Diego: You know who I didn't know if he classified, but I think he does?

00:47:18.855 - 00:47:21.375
Diego: Cementex from The Good Guys.

00:47:21.375 - 00:47:22.375
Joshua: The guy who...

00:47:22.375 - 00:47:23.335
Joshua: Yeah.

00:47:23.335 - 00:47:28.875
Diego: His thing is particular though, because he literally only controls cement made things.

00:47:28.875 - 00:47:29.335
Joshua: Yeah.

00:47:29.395 - 00:47:31.195
Joshua: So like building concrete on the floor.

00:47:31.495 - 00:47:32.775
Joshua: Shoot cement out.

00:47:32.775 - 00:47:33.715
Diego: I think so.

00:47:33.715 - 00:47:35.635
Diego: I mean, he could do it with cement whatever he wants.

00:47:35.635 - 00:47:36.275
Joshua: Yeah.

00:47:36.275 - 00:47:44.835
Diego: You know that part where they're like attacking in like the second to last season or something, where they're attacking the compound of the...

00:47:44.835 - 00:47:46.695
Diego: Those guys always remind me of the Brotherhood of Mutants.

00:47:46.695 - 00:47:47.775
Joshua: Metal Liberation Front.

00:47:47.775 - 00:47:48.095
Diego: Thank you.

00:47:48.095 - 00:47:55.335
Diego: Then when he's attacking, when they're attacking the whole thing, and he's like leading the charge by basically like dismantling their whole building.

00:47:55.555 - 00:47:56.935
Diego: Oh my god.

00:47:56.935 - 00:48:05.435
Diego: Like he's that kind of character, like he looks goofy, and you always kind of like, what's this guy ever going to really contribute to the fight?

00:48:06.355 - 00:48:07.935
Diego: Like Fat Gum, right.

00:48:07.935 - 00:48:12.675
Joshua: And then once you get to that part where he burns all of his fat and becomes jacked.

00:48:12.675 - 00:48:13.635
Diego: That is so dope.

00:48:13.635 - 00:48:14.175
Joshua: Yeah.

00:48:14.175 - 00:48:15.675
Diego: And the same thing with Cementex, man.

00:48:15.675 - 00:48:17.315
Diego: It's like you...

00:48:17.955 - 00:48:20.635
Diego: That's like the superpower of that show.

00:48:20.635 - 00:48:27.315
Diego: It is taking the most unassuming characters, the characters that you're like, that is the stupidest quirk ever.

00:48:27.315 - 00:48:33.855
Diego: And then completely blowing your mind within the right context and the right fight, blowing your mind with how the characters use.

00:48:33.855 - 00:48:34.735
Diego: Yeah.

00:48:34.735 - 00:48:40.535
Diego: And that was like that guy's shining glory moment of badass crowning.

00:48:40.535 - 00:48:41.595
Diego: So cool.

00:48:41.595 - 00:48:42.155
Diego: So there's him.

00:48:42.155 - 00:48:44.995
Diego: There's another chick called Pixie Bob in MHA.

00:48:44.995 - 00:48:46.655
Diego: And she also controls like...

00:48:47.075 - 00:48:49.195
Diego: She controls Earth, though, I think.

00:48:49.195 - 00:48:49.835
Diego: Like she caused...

00:48:49.835 - 00:48:52.475
Diego: There's a scene when she caused like a massive landslide.

00:48:52.475 - 00:48:54.215
Diego: I don't know if you remember who she is.

00:48:54.215 - 00:48:56.555
Diego: She's one of those chicks who wears like big cat paws.

00:48:56.555 - 00:48:57.635
Diego: You remember those?

00:48:57.635 - 00:48:59.315
Diego: I think there was like two or three girls.

00:48:59.315 - 00:49:00.395
Joshua: Pixie Bob?

00:49:00.395 - 00:49:01.075
Diego: Yeah.

00:49:01.075 - 00:49:03.955
Diego: And they wear these big cat paws on their hands.

00:49:03.955 - 00:49:06.995
Diego: And they have like some sort of headgear that kind of looks similar.

00:49:06.995 - 00:49:08.215
Diego: All of them.

00:49:08.675 - 00:49:09.115
Joshua: Oh, yeah.

00:49:09.115 - 00:49:09.415
Joshua: Yeah.

00:49:09.415 - 00:49:09.935
Joshua: Yeah.

00:49:09.935 - 00:49:13.675
Diego: She causes like a huge freaking landslide to happen.

00:49:13.675 - 00:49:15.895
Diego: And like she wipes out a whole bunch of heroes at once.

00:49:17.595 - 00:49:19.335
Diego: So, yeah, there's her.

00:49:19.335 - 00:49:24.435
Diego: And then on the metallic side, there's a character called Wolfram.

00:49:24.495 - 00:49:25.955
Diego: Wolfram?

00:49:25.955 - 00:49:26.995
Diego: Yeah.

00:49:27.375 - 00:49:28.575
Diego: In MHA.

00:49:29.655 - 00:49:35.215
Diego: So they don't want to end the episode without mentioning MHA, that's for sure.

00:49:35.215 - 00:49:36.155
Joshua: Yeah.

00:49:36.155 - 00:49:42.255
Diego: So anything else that you can think of that we need to talk about Earth here?

00:49:42.255 - 00:49:43.795
Diego: And there's some pretty powerful people.

00:49:44.255 - 00:49:47.775
Diego: Like, when you really take the Earth category to mean everything.

00:49:47.775 - 00:49:52.555
Diego: The Terra kinetics, the Metallokinetics, the...

00:49:52.575 - 00:49:53.515
Diego: What is it?

00:49:53.775 - 00:49:55.075
Diego: Botanokinetics?

00:49:55.075 - 00:49:55.615
Joshua: Yeah.

00:49:55.615 - 00:49:59.115
Joshua: Something we didn't mention was Terra from Teen Titans.

00:49:59.135 - 00:49:59.595
Diego: Oh yeah.

00:50:00.655 - 00:50:01.335
Joshua: She...

00:50:01.335 - 00:50:03.255
Joshua: her old thing is she can control it.

00:50:03.355 - 00:50:04.575
Joshua: That's like basically her.

00:50:04.575 - 00:50:04.795
Diego: Right.

00:50:04.795 - 00:50:05.455
Joshua: Yeah.

00:50:05.455 - 00:50:07.435
Joshua: And it's like Earth Earth, I'm pretty sure.

00:50:07.435 - 00:50:07.815
Diego: Yeah.

00:50:07.815 - 00:50:09.655
Joshua: Like, it's not like some offshoot.

00:50:11.055 - 00:50:11.835
Diego: Is there anyone else?

00:50:12.435 - 00:50:17.675
Diego: Or do I feel like there's some kind of villain in DC that can control Earth?

00:50:18.735 - 00:50:19.635
Diego: Could have sworn.

00:50:19.635 - 00:50:20.915
Joshua: I don't know if you mentioned Mr.

00:50:20.915 - 00:50:23.095
Joshua: Free's last episode.

00:50:23.855 - 00:50:25.035
Diego: I don't know.

00:50:25.035 - 00:50:26.995
Diego: I forget.

00:50:26.995 - 00:50:33.675
Diego: Uh, but anyway, yeah, man, the element of Earth, there's a surprising amount of people that are powerful.

00:50:33.675 - 00:50:54.215
Diego: And honestly, given the whole thought that Earth symbolizes stability and it is the thing that we're all standing on, unless you can fly, like if you have the ability in a story to control Earth, you have the ability to, like, cause this crazy level of insecurity to anyone who's coming against you.

00:50:54.215 - 00:50:54.675
Joshua: Yeah.

00:50:54.675 - 00:50:55.715
Diego: You know?

00:50:55.895 - 00:51:03.075
Diego: And I think that's that's one of the cool things that I like about MHA, that it's like they they train very similar in the academy.

00:51:03.075 - 00:51:06.875
Diego: They train very similar to the X-Men in Xavier School.

00:51:06.875 - 00:51:18.415
Diego: And it's like this this like everything they're doing in the danger room is all meant to not for just the individual to get more powerful, but to learn how to collaborate with their with their abilities.

00:51:18.415 - 00:51:22.215
Diego: And that makes for me, it makes the X-Men like really unique.

00:51:22.215 - 00:51:23.895
Diego: And it's the same thing with MHA.

00:51:23.895 - 00:51:35.775
Diego: Like when those big battles, you see like why they go to school because it's like the the the elder leadership level guys, like they're using everybody like chess pieces, right?

00:51:35.775 - 00:51:40.995
Diego: Like in the chessboard, your entire army has different powers, different abilities.

00:51:40.995 - 00:51:44.415
Diego: It's like you're controlling a team of super powered individuals.

00:51:44.415 - 00:51:49.615
Diego: And it's the combination of those capabilities that gives you victory in the end.

00:51:49.615 - 00:51:50.615
Diego: And I think it's really similar.

00:51:50.615 - 00:51:53.635
Diego: And I think the earth people are really threatening.

00:51:53.635 - 00:52:04.035
Diego: They might not seem like it at first, like the big element of water that can blast and wash away and all that stuff or freeze or like fire, right?

00:52:04.035 - 00:52:07.515
Diego: Which is so like imposing and feels and looks so dangerous.

00:52:07.515 - 00:52:14.215
Diego: But when you're talking about being able to control the thing that gives everybody stability, that makes everybody capable of even standing ready to fight.

00:52:14.215 - 00:52:18.975
Joshua: Yeah, because like say like in Earth, you're pretty sure Toph did this in Avatar.

00:52:18.975 - 00:52:26.095
Joshua: Like someone's like running at you, like about to fight you, just like create a chasm underneath them.

00:52:26.095 - 00:52:26.475
Diego: Right.

00:52:26.475 - 00:52:27.895
Joshua: They're just like they're gone.

00:52:27.895 - 00:52:31.595
Diego: Like again, unless they can fly, they're scarred.

00:52:31.595 - 00:52:33.635
Diego: Like what are you going to do against that?

00:52:33.635 - 00:52:34.775
Diego: There's just like nobody.

00:52:34.775 - 00:52:37.455
Diego: You lose your grounding, you lose your footing.

00:52:37.455 - 00:52:39.195
Diego: At that point, you're like a victim of gravity.

00:52:39.835 - 00:52:44.135
Diego: The person doesn't even have to do much if they remove the ground from under you.

00:52:44.135 - 00:52:45.195
Diego: It's pretty great, man.

00:52:45.195 - 00:52:52.375
Diego: Especially once you like start revealing magma, you get to like the layer where you're like dropping into magma.

00:52:52.375 - 00:52:52.775
Diego: Yeah.

00:52:53.155 - 00:53:00.275
Diego: Earth geokinetics can be very dangerous, and all of their derivatives can be very dangerous.

00:53:00.275 - 00:53:02.975
Diego: You know what I keep waiting for in DC Comics?

00:53:02.975 - 00:53:03.195
Joshua: What?

00:53:03.495 - 00:53:17.775
Diego: I keep waiting for like Swamp Thing and Poison Ivy to get tired of everybody killing nature and them becoming a major threat to everybody.

00:53:17.775 - 00:53:19.315
Joshua: And that being like an event comic?

00:53:19.315 - 00:53:20.095
Diego: Yeah.

00:53:20.095 - 00:53:21.515
Diego: I keep waiting for that.

00:53:21.515 - 00:53:23.815
Diego: I'm like, that's like low-hanging fruit right there.

00:53:23.815 - 00:53:34.275
Diego: And if you unite a few other characters who are like peripherally connected to Earth and vegetation and stuff, dude, you could have, it's like a wrestling faction, you know?

00:53:34.275 - 00:53:43.215
Diego: You could have this crazy storyline where like the Earth-bound individuals are like taking control, you know?

00:53:43.215 - 00:53:45.295
Diego: All for the sake of the planet.

00:53:45.295 - 00:53:46.535
Diego: Go Earth!

00:53:46.535 - 00:53:47.095
Diego: Do it, Kwami.

00:53:59.222 - 00:54:08.002
Diego: Thank you all for listening to this episode, the second in the series of the Four Elements, all about the element of Earth.

00:54:08.002 - 00:54:11.402
Diego: This was a lot of fun to research and a lot of fun to discuss.

00:54:11.402 - 00:54:15.282
Diego: It's crazy, the little things and offshoots in the conversation that come up.

00:54:15.282 - 00:54:19.282
Diego: And we apologize to The Rock for not being able to get to him.

00:54:19.282 - 00:54:21.722
Diego: This sounds like the Jimmy Kimmel thing with...

00:54:21.722 - 00:54:23.162
Joshua: Matt Damon.

00:54:23.162 - 00:54:25.662
Joshua: Sorry, Matt Damon, we had no time.

00:54:25.662 - 00:54:28.162
Diego: Sorry, Rock, we couldn't get to you in this episode.

00:54:28.522 - 00:54:41.322
Diego: Anyway, if you want to join the conversation, if you have any kind of like Rock characters or Earth-based characters that you feel we didn't talk about, there's a lot, like when it comes to anime, you know, neither one of us are like deep, deep into anime.

00:54:41.322 - 00:54:44.082
Diego: And anime goes in all crazy directions.

00:54:44.082 - 00:54:48.722
Diego: So like maybe there's a bunch of anime characters out there that you guys can think of and add to the discussion.

00:54:48.722 - 00:54:52.382
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00:54:52.382 - 00:54:53.662
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00:54:55.322 - 00:54:56.982
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00:54:57.082 - 00:54:58.382
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00:54:58.382 - 00:55:02.002
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00:55:02.002 - 00:55:06.902
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00:55:09.242 - 00:55:10.322
Diego: Thank you all for listening.

00:55:10.322 - 00:55:13.362
Diego: Now go get out there and touch some ground, baby.

00:55:13.362 - 00:55:14.282
Joshua: Yeah.

00:55:14.282 - 00:55:15.662
Diego: Earth, just rub it all over you.

00:55:15.662 - 00:55:17.662
Diego: Get those good germs in you.

00:55:17.662 - 00:55:19.062
Diego: Let your kids play in the dirt, too.

00:55:19.062 - 00:55:20.882
Diego: It's really good for their immune system.

00:55:20.882 - 00:55:24.102
Joshua: Just let them like get covered in mud and just don't let them take a bath.

00:55:24.362 - 00:55:24.582
Diego: Yeah.

00:55:24.582 - 00:55:29.442
Diego: Buy yourself a Roomba so they can clean up after they walk into the house full of dirt.

00:55:29.442 - 00:55:31.682
Diego: But go touch dirt and grass, too.

00:55:31.682 - 00:55:32.382
Diego: Touch grass.

00:55:32.382 - 00:55:33.222
Joshua: Maybe a little bit of grass.

00:55:33.742 - 00:55:34.542
Diego: Yeah.

00:55:34.542 - 00:55:35.462
Diego: Sorry again to the Rock.

00:55:35.462 - 00:55:36.262
Diego: Bye.