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Geekology 101
173: Unexpected Story Parallels
There's nothing new under the sun! Almost every story told across various genres is a retelling of a story that came before it, with a fresh twist. We're exploring these parallels and you'll be surprised by many of them.
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Joshua: Welcome to Geekology 101.
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Joshua: My name is Joshua.
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Diego: And I'm Diego.
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Joshua: And as you heard from our cold open, we are going to be talking about stories that are basically completely different, but pretty much have the exact same plot.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Diego: And before we get into it, son, what mug are you drinking out of today?
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Joshua: I am drinking out of the Bucky's mug that we got on our way back from Atlanta.
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Diego: Yeah, I'm drinking out of my red Darth Vader mug.
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Diego: It's pretty cool.
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Diego: It's like, you know what?
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Diego: We should post photos of these things to our...
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Diego: Wait, you don't post photos to YouTube.
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Diego: Actually, you can't post photos to YouTube.
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Joshua: You can't?
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Diego: But who posts photos on YouTube?
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Diego: Anyway, I'm drinking out of a Darth Vader mug.
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Diego: So Josh was yellow.
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Diego: I'm red today.
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Diego: Cheers, son.
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Diego: Clink it.
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Diego: Clink it.
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Diego: Clink.
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Diego: All right, man.
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Diego: So let's get into this thing.
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Diego: We each brought a few examples of this that we came up with separately, so we haven't shared these with each other.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: First of all, how was your experience trying to come up with some examples of this?
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Joshua: It was really hard at the beginning, but then when I got three in, then I started picking up.
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Diego: Yeah, I had a similar experience.
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Diego: I started off by being like, there has to be a lot of these samples.
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Diego: And then I would think about a story, a movie, a game, something, and then I would start breaking that down in my head to the most basic form of its story.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: And then when I broke it down, I'm like, oh, yeah, of course, I've definitely seen other things that are like this.
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Diego: And then the difficulty kicked in, like trying to find the other one that would pair up with it.
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Diego: Yeah, that part was kind of difficult.
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Diego: But same thing, like once I got to like two of them, I finally started like, you know, getting into a nice groove.
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Diego: So all right, who's going to go first?
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Joshua: Rock, paper, scissors.
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Diego: Sure.
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Diego: Ready?
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Diego: Rock.
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Diego: All right, you go first.
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Joshua: All right.
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Joshua: My first one is Gremlins.
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Joshua: Gremlins and Transformers.
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Joshua: So, I mean, it's kind of obvious when you like think of it at first, like gremlins, they transform into the like evil looking guys.
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Diego: Oh, I hadn't thought about that.
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Diego: Okay.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Joshua: And like the thing is like people think they're like really unsuspecting of both of them.
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Joshua: Like they just see cars.
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Joshua: And then with the gremlins, they just see like these cute little things.
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Joshua: And then when they transform, they just like shock people.
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Joshua: They like make them so it's like crazy to them.
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Diego: Hmm.
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Diego: Interesting.
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Diego: And you know what?
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Diego: Each of them actually has their own personality too.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: That's an interesting parallel there as well.
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Diego: Transformers is not a Christmas movie though.
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Diego: It's kind of sad.
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Joshua: It is kind of sad.
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Diego: There's a car involved in both in each of them.
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Joshua: That is true.
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Diego: If you go back to the original Transformers, Sam Witwicky, is that what his name was?
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Joshua: Sam Witwicky.
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Diego: Isn't it Witwicky or Wikis or something?
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Joshua: The main character.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Diego: He was supposed to get a car, and that's how he got to introduce the bumblebee.
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Diego: And in the other movie, I think this kid was expecting gremlins, he was expecting to get a car for Christmas, and instead he got a mogwai.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: I would totally love the mogwai more than the car.
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Diego: Oh man.
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Joshua: But then just don't get them wet.
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Diego: Yeah, or get them wet and then sell them and turn it into a business.
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Joshua: I mean...
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Diego: I'm just saying mogwai ink, bro.
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Joshua: That's mogwai ink.
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Joshua: That turned illegal very fast.
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Diego: Is it though?
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Diego: I don't know.
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Joshua: I mean...
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Diego: Oh, because I'm selling a living creature?
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Joshua: You're selling a living creature and you're...
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Diego: Isn't that what you do with dogs, snakes, cats, bunnies?
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Joshua: And you're selling a living creature that can do damage heavily if you just add like a jump.
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Diego: Can you imagine a world taken over by like the mogwai or the gremlins?
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Joshua: I would just kick them.
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Diego: They'll probably bite your leg, man.
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Diego: I'm just saying.
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Joshua: Just like hang on to my leg.
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Diego: Are you ready for my first one?
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: All right.
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Diego: This one I've had in my head for a long, long time.
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Diego: That's why I got the first...
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Diego: It was the first one on my list, and I came up with it very quickly because I've been thinking about it for a long, long time.
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Diego: And it's similar, the parallel between Avatar and Pocahontas.
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Joshua: I have that.
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Diego: Oh, you're so wack, man.
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Diego: I beat you to it.
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Diego: Yeah, like that one is...
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Diego: It's pretty clear, the parallels.
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Diego: For the majority of that first movie, like, man, it really follows the Pocahontas.
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Joshua: Do you think that James Cameron took inspiration?
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Diego: I gotta imagine, I mean, how could you not realize that you're making Pocahontas in outer space?
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Joshua: Exactly.
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Diego: You know?
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Joshua: I mean, it's like the same formula.
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Joshua: You know, it's like regular, regular people discover, like, this tribe of, like, native people that are...
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Diego: Do you just call white people regular?
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Joshua: I had air quotes.
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Diego: You know, this is an audio format show, right?
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Diego: People can't see air quotes.
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Diego: You just said that the regular humans are white humans.
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Diego: Oh, man, you're going to get us so canceled.
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Diego: Anyway, yeah, I know what you said.
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Diego: A white Caucasian guy, which is what...
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Joshua: The general...
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Joshua: I forgot.
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Diego: No, no, the main character.
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Diego: Dude who's, like, handicapping...
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Joshua: I forgot his name.
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Diego: Sam Worthington.
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Joshua: No, okay.
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Diego: That's his real name.
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Diego: Anyway, that dude is a white guy, and he travels a very, very long distance.
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Diego: And discovers a new world full of people who are colored differently.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: Like, there you go, you know?
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Diego: And he, no, no, and he falls in love with the daughter of the chief.
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Joshua: I mean, it's basic, it's the same exact story.
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Diego: And there's another dude from the tribe who is in love with her, and he gets beef against homeboy because he's taking her from him.
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Diego: That is literally an avatar.
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Joshua: It's literally the exact same story.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: It's so freaking parallel.
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Diego: It's not even funny.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Diego: So that's my first choice.
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Diego: It was the most obvious one.
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Joshua: It's exactly the same.
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Joshua: It's just like the people are blue.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Diego: But such a different experience, though, right?
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: Like Pocahontas is so much a kid's story, and yet you're able to take all of those core elements, almost verbatim, and tell a story that appeals to a much, much broader audience.
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Diego: You know?
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Joshua: That is kind of strange.
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Joshua: Everything is the same, basically, but it just feels more mature.
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Joshua: I mean, I definitely get it, but it's kind of weird.
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Diego: I mean, well, that happens, I guess, when you turn it into a sci-fi movie.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: Which is really interesting.
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Diego: It begs the question, like, pick any Disney movie and sci-fi the heck out of it.
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Diego: What cool movies can we come up with?
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Diego: Yeah.
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Diego: Anyway, what's your second one?
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Joshua: My second one is very interesting.
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Joshua: Finding Nemo.
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Joshua: And Taken.
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Diego: Finding Nemo.
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Diego: Holy cow, yes.
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Diego: I see it now.
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Joshua: I mean, it's like, so there's the dad, right?
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Diego: Yeah.
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Joshua: There's the dad, and then there's the child.
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Joshua: And then the child goes missing, so the father has to go on this like crazy journey mission to find their child.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Joshua: It's the same story, but just with like little orange fish.
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Joshua: Interesting.
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Diego: It kind of is, man.
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Diego: That's really interesting.
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Diego: I like that one.
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Diego: Is there a Dory and Taken?
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Diego: No, there's not.
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Joshua: No.
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Diego: There's no Dory.
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Diego: That's too bad.
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Diego: My second one is Lord of the Rings and The Last of Us.
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Diego: I'm going to let you process that one a little bit.
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Diego: Wait, hold on.
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Diego: Have you ever seen Lord of the Rings?
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Joshua: I've seen Lord of the Rings.
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Joshua: It's been a while, but I've seen it.
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Diego: Do you see it?
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Diego: Why?
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Joshua: Because there's the guy.
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Joshua: Honestly, I don't see it really.
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Diego: Oh, my God.
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Diego: Okay, here's how I saw it.
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Diego: So, there's an evil has spread through the world.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: Right?
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Diego: Parallel in both.
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Diego: One is the virus, or not the virus, but the fungus thing.
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Diego: The other one is Sauron and the evil.
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Diego: Right?
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Diego: Then there is a cast of heroes who are kind of misfits to each other at first.
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Diego: They go on a very, very long journey with the purpose of trying to end that evil.
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Diego: In Lord of the Rings, the way that they're going to do that, they have to go to Mordor to be able to throw the cast of ring into the fires of Mordor.
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Joshua: And in The Last of Us, they have to get Ellie to the Firefly Hospital.
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Diego: There's also the fact that like, there's one precious thing.
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Diego: There's one precious thing in Lord of the Rings, and that's the ring.
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Joshua: And then in The Last of Us, it's Ellie.
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Diego: It's Ellie.
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Diego: Ellie is the precious thing.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Diego: But it becomes like the story is really all about the journey, because the journey is what transforms the characters from misfits into like family.
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Diego: You know?
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Diego: So that, I think, was like one of the most unexpected ones.
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Diego: And the concept of the journey, that's what brought it to my mind.
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Diego: I'm like, yes, journey, of course.
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Diego: You know, it's a long trek, it's, you know, and the journey is what you're there for.
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Diego: Do you think you're there for the final thing?
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Joshua: For the final, like, just like, I just want to see them throw the ring to the...
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Joshua: But like, really, all the content is really them on the journey.
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Joshua: Yep.
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Diego: The people they meet along the way.
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Joshua: Just like in The Last of Us.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: There's some that are good, there's some that are bad, some become allies, some become, you know, threats.
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Diego: Like, there's a lot of parallels.
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Diego: It's really interesting.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Joshua: That is actually closer than I thought it would be.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Diego: That's the same thing that I thought.
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Diego: What's your...
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Diego: What is...
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Diego: Where are we?
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Diego: Second one?
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Joshua: Third.
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Diego: Third one.
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Diego: What's your third one?
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Joshua: My third one is Godzilla and Attack on Titan.
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Joshua: Hold on.
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Diego: Let me think about that.
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Diego: Godzilla and Attack on Titan.
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Diego: Aside from the obvious Titan name.
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Diego: Okay.
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Diego: So, ancient race of very giant creatures who are misunderstood by humans, who are in finding themselves having to battle humans.
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Diego: Yeah, that's about the last parallel I can find.
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Joshua: Really?
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Diego: Yeah, talk to me.
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Diego: Go.
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Diego: I mean, you know, obviously, you know Attack on Titan.
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Diego: Yeah, more about Attack on Titan.
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Joshua: So, I mean, in Godzilla, there's not...
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Joshua: Obviously, there's not only Godzilla and King Kong.
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Joshua: There's multiple races of these big creatures.
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Joshua: Like in the first, like the 2014 Godzilla movie, there's the two creatures, the two like look-alike creatures.
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Joshua: They're one kind, then there's like the ape kind, and there's the Godzilla kind.
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Joshua: There's all those different types.
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Joshua: Just like in Attack on Titan, there's like pure regular titans.
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Joshua: There's titan shifters, which are humans that can shift into titans.
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Joshua: And I feel like the equivalent of that in the titan verse is like the fact that in Godzilla versus Kong, there was that girl who could talk to Kong and who could basically communicate with him, kind of control him.
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Joshua: I feel like that's kind of the equivalent of the titan shifters.
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Joshua: They're really close with the titans.
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Joshua: And then also, there's obviously just the humans, titans, their struggle.
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Joshua: There's some people that really understand and want to help them.
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Joshua: There's some people that just view them as just a threat, like the military in Attack on Titan.
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Joshua: I honestly think that there are definitely some things that set them apart, but there are a lot of parallels.
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Joshua: I think so.
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Diego: That's an interesting one.
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Diego: Okay.
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Diego: I wouldn't have thought about that.
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Diego: That's a good one.
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Diego: Okay, my third one.
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Diego: This is another one, honestly, that's a little bit similar, but I kind of have two different possibilities here.
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Diego: So one is the Incredible Hulk and Dr.
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Diego: Jekyll and Mr.
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Diego: Hyde.
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Joshua: That's like...
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Diego: Is it too obvious?
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Joshua: That's way too obvious.
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Diego: All right, so how about the Shrek and the Hulk?
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Diego: Dude, so you're thinking like, okay, they're both green.
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Joshua: But Shrek doesn't transform.
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Diego: He doesn't, but...
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Joshua: But he gets mad.
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Diego: Well, no, no, it's like Shrek has this hidden sweet side to him, you know, that only very few people are able to see.
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Diego: The majority of people just see the monster.
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Joshua: Like Donkey.
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Diego: Donkey.
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Diego: And they don't see the, to quote him, the layers.
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Diego: Ogres have layers, Donkey.
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Joshua: I mean, they do.
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Diego: They do.
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Diego: And that's the same thing with Banner and Hulk, right?
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Diego: It's like, what people see is Hulk.
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Diego: And even when he's Banner, all they see really is like, at any moment, this dude could turn into this monster and kill me.
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Diego: Like, that's what everybody has in their head.
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Diego: So, and like, right now, I'm reading the current Incredible Hulk series, which has a real nice, like, horror twist to it.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: And in it, there's this teenage girl who's escaping, like, an abusive household.
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Diego: And I'm not exactly sure why.
00:14:28.602 --> 00:14:31.942
Diego: I haven't revealed why yet, but she's very obsessed with just following Hulk.
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Diego: Not Banner, Hulk.
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Joshua: Like...
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Diego: Like, she's...
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Joshua: Like what?
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Joshua: So when Banner, like, so when he transforms into Banner, she, like, becomes, like, less interested?
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Diego: Yes.
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Diego: Like, she doesn't really like Banner.
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Diego: But she loves Hulk?
00:14:48.762 --> 00:14:52.522
Diego: She wants to be around the Hulk, and she wants to eventually become, like, Hulk.
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Joshua: Huh.
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Diego: Yeah, it's really interesting.
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Diego: And so, and that just made me think a little bit of, like, Fiona, you know, how Fiona ended up, like, becoming like Hulk, like, like Hulk.
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Diego: Becoming like Shrek.
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Diego: And, yeah, like, and then there's also, like, the fact that everybody, like, they want to, in the first Shrek movie, they want to hit his swamp.
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Diego: His swamp.
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Diego: He didn't want to give it away.
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Diego: And they, with Hulk, they want the gamma, the secret to how to create more like him, you know?
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Joshua: And then they have to, like, artificially make the abomination.
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Diego: Right, yeah.
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Diego: So, like, there's something that they want from each of them.
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Diego: They won't give it.
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Diego: Anyway, I don't know.
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Diego: I thought that there was, like, some interesting...
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Joshua: Yeah, there is a similarity.
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Joshua: I...
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Joshua: That's, like, the one that, when you first said it, I was like, there's nothing in common besides that they're green and big.
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Joshua: But then when you actually explained it, I was like, oh.
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Diego: It's basically, like, the core story.
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Diego: Maybe we should have done this for each one of our picks, or maybe we could do it from here on out.
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Diego: Like, the core story there is a misunderstood giant, to me.
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Diego: That's kind of like the, you know.
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Joshua: Like, we're supposed to say the core story.
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Diego: The misunderstood sweet monster.
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Diego: There you go.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: That's how I would define that.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: What would you, how would you summarize the Godzilla and Titans?
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Joshua: I would summarize that as few humans.
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Diego: You stuck over there?
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: I would maybe do it like, honestly, it's a little bit similar to what I just described.
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Diego: It's kind of like a misunderstood monster thing, too.
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Diego: Or unknown monsters.
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Diego: Like, humans being quick to fight unknown monsters instead of trying to understand them.
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Diego: Sort of thing.
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Diego: I don't know, something like that.
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Joshua: Like, some people bond with them.
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Joshua: Some people want to destroy them.
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Diego: Let's go back.
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Diego: For me, Lord of the Rings and The Last of Us is a journey to save the world that ends up saving the people taking the journey.
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Diego: That's how I would describe that one.
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Diego: Avatar and Pocahontas, I think we pretty much described it.
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Diego: White man discovers exotic race of different colored people, falls in love with the chief's daughter.
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Diego: How would you describe your other two?
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Joshua: My other two.
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Joshua: My first one was Gremlins and Transformers.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Joshua: Creatures that can transform.
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Joshua: Mm-hmm.
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Joshua: Creatures that can transform.
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Diego: Creatures with distinct personalities that can transform, grouped into good side and bad side with humans caught in the middle.
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Diego: That's pretty good.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Diego: That's pretty good.
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Diego: You guys can quote me out there.
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Diego: That's pretty good.
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Diego: What about the other one?
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Joshua: The other one for me was Finding Nemo and Taken.
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Diego: Oh, yeah.
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Joshua: I mean, go ahead.
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Joshua: It's basically just like child taken from parent.
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Joshua: Parent goes on journey to rescue child.
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Joshua: That's basically it.
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Diego: That's the core of it.
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Diego: All right.
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Joshua: Who's next?
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Joshua: I think, oh, you just went...
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Diego: I just did Incredible Hulk and Shrek.
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Joshua: Have you been recording this whole time?
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Diego: Yeah.
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Joshua: Oh.
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Diego: Well, you thought I was going to take a whole break for a half hour while you figured out the explanation of your thing?
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Joshua: My next one is Hitman.
00:18:34.402 --> 00:18:38.582
Joshua: Now, this one, at first, it will seem obvious, but there's more to it.
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Joshua: Hitman and Assassin's Creed.
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Joshua: So when you first think about it, it's like, oh, people that they have to kill certain people, but it's actually more than that.
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Joshua: So in Hitman, Agent 47, he works for organization, the ICA.
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Joshua: And the ICA is an opposing organization to this organization, which kind of enslaved slash trained Agent 47 as a child.
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Joshua: So in Hitman 3 and Hitman 2, the job that you have to do is assassinate all the members of that group.
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Joshua: And obviously in Assassin's Creed, you got the Assassins, and then you have the Templars.
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Joshua: And let's say Assassin's Creed 2 with Ezio.
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Joshua: He hates the Templars, and he doesn't really know it at first.
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Joshua: He doesn't know what the Templars are, but he knows that there's these people that killed his family.
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Joshua: And he just wants revenge, but once he finds out that there's a bigger order behind the killing of his family, he thinks, oh, now I have to take down this entire thing.
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Joshua: And it spans beyond Ezio.
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Joshua: It's like the entire Assassin's Creed universe.
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Joshua: What do you think about that one?
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Diego: I think Ezio should shave his head.
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Joshua: So he can just be more like you?
00:20:08.662 --> 00:20:09.662
Diego: Or Agent 47.
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Diego: But honestly, yeah, now that you mention it, I think it's a good idea that he would be more like me.
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Diego: Chubby and sexy.
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Diego: Anyway, all right, here's mine.
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Diego: Oh, so wait, how would you define, how would you summarize that one then?
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Diego: What's the core story there?
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Joshua: I would define that as two opposing factions.
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Diego: Yeah.
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Joshua: One person leads the battle.
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Diego: Okay, all right, fair enough.
00:20:34.562 --> 00:20:35.042
Diego: That works.
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Diego: I had actually, just as an honorable mention type thing, I had thought about, but this one felt a little bit too obvious, but I had thought about Agent 47 and Black Widow, because Black Widow, of course, was part of the KGB and the Black Widow Red Room program, and she got out of it and then went against them.
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Joshua: And then in the first Hitman game, Agent 47 is in this training sequence where he gets up out of the bed and he does this, and he's like, yeah, I do see that.
00:21:08.282 --> 00:21:08.582
Diego: Right?
00:21:09.782 --> 00:21:12.942
Diego: But I felt like it was too obvious because they were both assassins and stuff.
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Diego: All right, here's my next one.
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Diego: Dragon Ball and Superman.
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Joshua: Hold on.
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Diego: Go ahead, think about it.
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Diego: Pretty sure you'll catch this one.
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Diego: Dragon Ball and Superman.
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Joshua: Well, I mean, obviously, there's the obvious thing about Goku and Superman.
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Diego: Which is what?
00:21:33.622 --> 00:21:36.442
Joshua: Which is that they're both people that are...
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Diego: Again, they're gods...
00:21:37.362 --> 00:21:37.362
Joshua: .
00:21:37.362 --> 00:21:39.602
Joshua: incredibly power and can fly, do stuff like that.
00:21:39.622 --> 00:21:40.462
Diego: That's the obvious part.
00:21:40.482 --> 00:21:41.142
Joshua: But I think...
00:21:41.982 --> 00:21:43.122
Joshua: Is the correlation...
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Joshua: One of the other correlations, the Dragon Balls and the sun?
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Diego: No.
00:21:49.642 --> 00:21:50.522
Diego: What?
00:21:50.782 --> 00:21:52.182
Diego: Dragon Balls and the sun?
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Diego: No, man.
00:21:53.682 --> 00:21:53.862
Diego: Oh.
00:21:55.022 --> 00:21:57.682
Diego: I'm going to tell you the course story, and then you're going to get it.
00:22:00.602 --> 00:22:09.602
Diego: One of the last surviving people from an alien race crash lands on Earth and becomes Earth's protector.
00:22:13.002 --> 00:22:14.902
Diego: The sun and the Dragon Ball.
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Diego: Yeah, what do you think of that?
00:22:18.742 --> 00:22:19.222
Joshua: That is...
00:22:19.762 --> 00:22:21.502
Diego: It's crazy parallel, man.
00:22:23.082 --> 00:22:23.882
Joshua: There has...
00:22:24.002 --> 00:22:27.722
Joshua: There was definitely some inspiration.
00:22:27.742 --> 00:22:28.062
Diego: Right?
00:22:28.082 --> 00:22:33.262
Diego: I feel like Akira Toriyama must have been like, you know, let's make the Japanese Superman.
00:22:33.362 --> 00:22:34.802
Joshua: Like, bro, just change up...
00:22:35.002 --> 00:22:44.962
Joshua: It's like just change up the homework a little bit, but then the changed up homework ends up being better than the one that started off.
00:22:44.982 --> 00:22:47.102
Diego: Yeah, it's pretty crazy, man.
00:22:47.702 --> 00:22:50.622
Diego: And you could keep drawing parallels all day.
00:22:50.642 --> 00:22:51.682
Joshua: Yeah.
00:22:51.782 --> 00:22:54.142
Diego: They both have died and come back to life.
00:22:54.962 --> 00:22:57.902
Diego: Again, they're both, like, essentially like god status.
00:22:58.162 --> 00:22:58.582
Diego: Look at it.
00:22:58.602 --> 00:23:02.962
Diego: My son's having a seizure over here because of the realization of how similar these things are.
00:23:03.162 --> 00:23:05.142
Diego: So, yeah, there we go.
00:23:05.162 --> 00:23:06.102
Diego: That's my number...
00:23:06.662 --> 00:23:07.722
Diego: No, that's my number four.
00:23:07.762 --> 00:23:10.662
Diego: Dragon Ball and Superman, or more specifically, Goku and Superman.
00:23:11.082 --> 00:23:12.242
Diego: But yeah, the whole story.
00:23:12.302 --> 00:23:19.222
Diego: I mean, and let's not even talk about the fact that, like, Goku ends up surrounded by a whole bunch of other super powerful beings that are in the planet.
00:23:19.622 --> 00:23:20.642
Diego: Justice League, anyone?
00:23:20.842 --> 00:23:23.082
Diego: Let's go ahead and go on to Joshua's number five.
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Diego: Go ahead.
00:23:23.442 --> 00:23:24.482
Diego: What's your number five?
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Joshua: My number five is, okay, this one, I talk about one of these a little bit too much, but it is The Last of Us and Dishonored.
00:23:37.742 --> 00:23:38.162
Diego: Oh, really?
00:23:38.402 --> 00:23:38.742
Joshua: Yeah.
00:23:39.182 --> 00:23:41.522
Joshua: So I know that obviously you don't know anything about Dishonored.
00:23:42.142 --> 00:24:03.702
Joshua: So The Last of Us, like you talked about before, it is Joel and Ellie, like the father, the daughter, going through a plague-ridden like area, going through a plague-ridden area, plague-ridden world, and they are like the...
00:24:04.282 --> 00:24:05.342
Diego: Wait, this is Dishonored?
00:24:05.602 --> 00:24:07.722
Joshua: No, this is The Last of Us.
00:24:07.942 --> 00:24:15.522
Joshua: They're going through a plague-ridden world, they're trying to complete this objective, and along the way, they encounter a bunch of enemies.
00:24:16.642 --> 00:24:20.542
Joshua: And at the beginning, Joel loses someone very important to him.
00:24:21.602 --> 00:24:33.122
Joshua: Now, if we switch over to Dishonored here, at the beginning of the game, the protagonist Corvo, he loses the Empress, and he was her bodyguard.
00:24:33.942 --> 00:24:36.562
Joshua: So that's like a really bad thing to happen.
00:24:36.582 --> 00:24:37.642
Joshua: So they blame it on him.
00:24:38.282 --> 00:24:46.062
Joshua: He gets locked up, and then he finds out that it was a conspiracy from someone that he thought was his friend.
00:24:46.822 --> 00:24:51.022
Joshua: Like in The Last of Us, you have Joel and Marlene.
00:24:53.022 --> 00:24:55.542
Joshua: And then there's a plague in Dishonored, too.
00:24:56.102 --> 00:24:56.562
Diego: Oh, really?
00:24:56.662 --> 00:24:59.022
Joshua: Yeah, it's like a virus.
00:24:59.042 --> 00:24:59.822
Joshua: It affects people.
00:24:59.842 --> 00:25:01.142
Joshua: They basically become zombies.
00:25:02.682 --> 00:25:05.442
Joshua: And at the end, they have to...
00:25:06.842 --> 00:25:13.682
Joshua: The final boss is that they kill the Lord Regent, basically like the king.
00:25:14.402 --> 00:25:23.962
Joshua: And then in The Last of Us, they kill Marlene, who is kind of running everything in the Fireflies, all stuff like that.
00:25:24.402 --> 00:25:33.802
Joshua: And then the daughter of Corvo Tano, who is the Empress' daughter also, she doesn't really know about anything that's been happening.
00:25:34.142 --> 00:25:43.162
Joshua: She doesn't know what he had to do to save her in the end, which is just like with Ellie, which is the whole conflict with The Last of Us 2.
00:25:43.982 --> 00:25:45.922
Joshua: I think it's a pretty close parallel.
00:25:45.942 --> 00:25:46.422
Diego: Interesting.
00:25:47.222 --> 00:25:47.922
Diego: What are the figures?
00:25:47.942 --> 00:25:49.362
Diego: Then again, I didn't know anything about that.
00:25:50.342 --> 00:25:51.622
Diego: So what will be the core story?
00:25:51.682 --> 00:25:53.802
Diego: The core story is father, daughter.
00:25:58.842 --> 00:26:07.022
Joshua: Goes on a journey, encounters enemies, friends, in the end, ends up doing the right thing.
00:26:08.042 --> 00:26:08.382
Diego: Okay.
00:26:09.502 --> 00:26:09.822
Diego: Okay.
00:26:10.762 --> 00:26:11.262
Diego: I hear you.
00:26:11.422 --> 00:26:12.982
Joshua: What's your number six?
00:26:13.722 --> 00:26:15.362
Diego: One, two, three, four, five.
00:26:15.462 --> 00:26:17.202
Diego: One, two, three, four, five.
00:26:17.222 --> 00:26:17.882
Diego: My number five.
00:26:19.522 --> 00:26:28.182
Diego: This one, anyone who knows the first one will have immediately probably thought about this, but Lone Wolf and Cub and Mandalorian.
00:26:30.162 --> 00:26:39.182
Diego: And Lone Wolf and Cub can also be compared to The Last of Us, but Lone Wolf and Cub was this story in Japan, a manga.
00:26:40.422 --> 00:26:44.902
Diego: And then it got turned into movies and show and a whole bunch of other things based off of that.
00:26:45.242 --> 00:26:53.282
Diego: But the whole story is this gray samurai who ends up being banned from the samurai brotherhood order or whatever.
00:26:56.002 --> 00:27:02.022
Diego: And he ends up being in danger of being killed, basically.
00:27:03.522 --> 00:27:08.722
Diego: And he has a son, a little baby, or a toddler or whatever.
00:27:09.142 --> 00:27:20.682
Diego: And so he has to go through this whole journey, basically, living the life of an assassin, protecting his son along the way, raising him along the way in this crazy lifestyle of constantly being in danger and stuff like that.
00:27:20.982 --> 00:27:24.822
Diego: And so it becomes this whole journey thing of a father and a little child.
00:27:25.362 --> 00:27:27.802
Diego: And of course, mandalorian.
00:27:27.822 --> 00:27:28.822
Joshua: It's the same thing.
00:27:28.842 --> 00:27:29.882
Diego: Yeah, it's basically the same thing.
00:27:29.902 --> 00:27:40.222
Diego: Even the point of being disgraced, because the mandalorian has to go back on his whole thing as a bounty hunter, where he's not supposed to care what happens once he delivers the bounty.
00:27:40.502 --> 00:27:40.862
Joshua: Yeah.
00:27:41.182 --> 00:27:43.422
Joshua: And instead, he ends up caring too much.
00:27:43.442 --> 00:27:45.142
Diego: He ends up breaking that rule, yeah.
00:27:45.522 --> 00:27:50.582
Diego: So he ends up being disgraced by the guild of bounty hunters.
00:27:50.822 --> 00:27:51.802
Joshua: Yeah.
00:27:51.802 --> 00:27:53.762
Diego: And then he has to go on the run, right, and he's being hunted.
00:27:53.782 --> 00:27:56.042
Joshua: By like everybody.
00:27:57.242 --> 00:28:00.002
Diego: So yeah, little baby Yoda, you know, he's a little cub.
00:28:01.182 --> 00:28:02.002
Joshua: I mean, you're not wrong.
00:28:02.222 --> 00:28:02.862
Diego: So there you go.
00:28:02.962 --> 00:28:15.102
Diego: So yeah, kind of a disgraced warrior in exile with a child caring for him, trying to keep him alive and trying to survive, you know, would be like the core story description for now.
00:28:15.242 --> 00:28:17.422
Diego: All right, what do you got for number six?
00:28:17.942 --> 00:28:21.662
Joshua: Now, I actually, my next one is number seven because...
00:28:21.682 --> 00:28:23.162
Diego: Oh, I took one of yours.
00:28:23.182 --> 00:28:26.282
Joshua: Yeah, you took my avatar and Pocahontas.
00:28:26.302 --> 00:28:26.542
Diego: True.
00:28:26.722 --> 00:28:27.962
Joshua: So this is my number seven.
00:28:27.982 --> 00:28:30.142
Diego: Okay, fair enough.
00:28:30.162 --> 00:28:32.682
Joshua: Now, this is the one that kind of started off this whole episode idea.
00:28:33.322 --> 00:28:36.062
Joshua: It'll be God of War and Red Dead Redemption.
00:28:36.582 --> 00:28:36.882
Diego: Okay.
00:28:36.902 --> 00:28:41.222
Joshua: Now, honestly, it could be Red Dead Redemption 1 or Red Dead Redemption 2.
00:28:42.382 --> 00:28:44.462
Joshua: Because they have a similar story.
00:28:44.482 --> 00:28:46.522
Diego: There's no kid in Red Dead Redemption, though, is there?
00:28:46.962 --> 00:28:49.042
Joshua: There's a kid in Red Dead Redemption 1.
00:28:49.382 --> 00:28:49.782
Diego: Oh, yeah?
00:28:49.862 --> 00:28:50.182
Joshua: Yeah.
00:28:50.342 --> 00:28:51.722
Diego: That goes on the journey with the guy?
00:28:53.142 --> 00:28:55.342
Joshua: No, but it's similar.
00:28:55.522 --> 00:28:55.962
Joshua: You'll see.
00:28:56.582 --> 00:29:02.462
Joshua: So in God of War, obviously, you have Kratos, Atreus, at least in the remake or re whatever.
00:29:02.862 --> 00:29:04.082
Joshua: You have Kratos, Atreus.
00:29:04.422 --> 00:29:12.762
Joshua: They have one goal, to spread their, or to spread Atreus' mother's ashes at the highest peak in all of the nine realms.
00:29:12.922 --> 00:29:13.222
Diego: Right.
00:29:13.982 --> 00:29:25.362
Joshua: In Red Dead Redemption, you have Arthur, or in Red Dead Redemption 2, you have Arthur and John, who is kind of like, ends up becoming a son slash brother figure to him.
00:29:26.422 --> 00:29:40.142
Joshua: And then their journey with the, along with the entire Vandalin gang, is to escape America, and like basically get the law off of them, so they can just live like a good life after their life of crime.
00:29:41.382 --> 00:29:44.102
Joshua: And they encounter enemies.
00:29:44.422 --> 00:29:47.282
Joshua: They encounter friends, like the Native American people.
00:29:47.882 --> 00:29:53.522
Joshua: They encounter more lawmen, like new organizations that they have never heard of before.
00:29:53.542 --> 00:29:57.542
Diego: Do they encounter any regular humans, as you like to call white people?
00:29:59.542 --> 00:29:59.822
Diego: No?
00:30:01.082 --> 00:30:02.742
Diego: They're just irregular humans.
00:30:04.982 --> 00:30:13.522
Joshua: Yeah, and then in the end, it's about a father and a son figure who aren't really bonded.
00:30:13.542 --> 00:30:15.302
Joshua: They don't really like each other in the beginning.
00:30:16.442 --> 00:30:23.082
Joshua: And because of one character that went away, who connected to both of them.
00:30:24.142 --> 00:30:31.762
Joshua: So along this journey, they end up realizing that they're not as different as they both thought that they were.
00:30:32.502 --> 00:30:33.982
Joshua: And they end up bonding.
00:30:34.042 --> 00:30:41.682
Joshua: They end up forming a very, very strong bond to the point where they can call each other brothers.
00:30:41.682 --> 00:30:43.962
Joshua: They can call each other father and son.
00:30:46.082 --> 00:30:47.042
Diego: You know, it's interesting.
00:30:47.062 --> 00:30:50.442
Diego: There's another one that just came to mind that fits that parallel.
00:30:50.582 --> 00:30:50.902
Joshua: What?
00:30:51.102 --> 00:30:54.242
Diego: That's Terminator 2, T2 Judgment Day.
00:30:56.022 --> 00:31:00.262
Diego: So the Terminator T-800 is sent back in time to protect John Connor as a teenager.
00:31:00.782 --> 00:31:01.102
Joshua: Yeah.
00:31:01.142 --> 00:31:02.402
Diego: At first, they don't get along.
00:31:02.422 --> 00:31:05.702
Diego: They're not, you know, like, basically, he kind of kidnaps, kidnaps them.
00:31:05.722 --> 00:31:06.102
Joshua: Yeah.
00:31:06.422 --> 00:31:09.642
Diego: Like God of War reminds me of that, you know, to a degree.
00:31:09.682 --> 00:31:10.742
Diego: Even Mandalorian.
00:31:10.762 --> 00:31:13.482
Diego: There's also parallels between Mandalorian and God of War.
00:31:15.142 --> 00:31:15.562
Diego: For sure.
00:31:15.582 --> 00:31:18.462
Diego: So yeah, all of those actually.
00:31:18.822 --> 00:31:27.262
Diego: But man, the Terminator 2 is actually really interesting because, yeah, they end up throughout that journey forming very much like a family bond that kid with the Terminator.
00:31:27.282 --> 00:31:27.562
Joshua: Yeah.
00:31:27.582 --> 00:31:29.302
Diego: It's pretty, it's pretty cool.
00:31:30.122 --> 00:31:30.642
Diego: All right, my turn?
00:31:30.842 --> 00:31:31.502
Joshua: Yeah.
00:31:31.522 --> 00:31:32.262
Joshua: What is your next one?
00:31:32.282 --> 00:31:34.542
Diego: This is an interesting one.
00:31:37.422 --> 00:31:39.962
Diego: Maybe I'll invert because I got the last two of them, basically.
00:31:40.262 --> 00:31:40.602
Joshua: Yeah.
00:31:42.082 --> 00:31:43.142
Diego: Let me do this one first.
00:31:44.342 --> 00:31:47.562
Diego: I am legend in Planet of the Apes.
00:31:48.842 --> 00:31:49.322
Joshua: I see it.
00:31:49.402 --> 00:31:49.882
Joshua: I see it.
00:31:50.082 --> 00:31:50.562
Diego: Talk to me.
00:31:50.602 --> 00:31:50.962
Diego: Tell me.
00:31:54.042 --> 00:31:57.502
Joshua: It's like most of humanity died, basically.
00:31:57.942 --> 00:32:04.022
Joshua: And then there's small, very small groups of people who are left.
00:32:04.102 --> 00:32:09.902
Joshua: And then there's misunderstood creatures who people think are just wild.
00:32:10.782 --> 00:32:11.662
Diego: You really caught it.
00:32:11.682 --> 00:32:11.962
Joshua: Good.
00:32:11.982 --> 00:32:14.242
Joshua: They think are just crazy.
00:32:14.262 --> 00:32:15.222
Joshua: I think they have no brain.
00:32:15.482 --> 00:32:15.842
Diego: Nice.
00:32:15.942 --> 00:32:24.182
Joshua: But they are very domesticated, not domesticated, they're very, they're like, how do I say this?
00:32:24.422 --> 00:32:25.922
Diego: They're like very social.
00:32:25.942 --> 00:32:26.382
Joshua: Yeah, social.
00:32:26.402 --> 00:32:27.942
Diego: And they form emotional bonds.
00:32:28.862 --> 00:32:30.682
Diego: They have a sort of structure.
00:32:30.982 --> 00:32:31.482
Joshua: Yeah.
00:32:31.502 --> 00:32:32.222
Diego: Yeah.
00:32:32.562 --> 00:32:33.262
Diego: Very good, man.
00:32:33.282 --> 00:32:34.622
Diego: You actually, yeah, you caught the whole thing.
00:32:34.642 --> 00:32:37.102
Diego: That to me was the most, like, relevatory part.
00:32:37.142 --> 00:32:56.282
Joshua: And then in the end of some of the story, some regular characters end up realizing that they actually have social structures, that they're not just beasts.
00:32:56.502 --> 00:32:56.842
Diego: Yeah.
00:32:56.842 --> 00:32:57.242
Diego: Yeah.
00:32:57.302 --> 00:32:58.182
Diego: Good, good, good.
00:32:58.202 --> 00:32:59.402
Diego: You pretty much got the whole thing.
00:32:59.542 --> 00:33:10.242
Diego: Because I kept on thinking about, like, post-apocalyptic scenarios where, like, whatever the plague is that's spreading works and, like, almost wipes out or fully wipes out humanity.
00:33:11.202 --> 00:33:14.342
Diego: But that was, like, different from the typical zombie movie.
00:33:14.602 --> 00:33:16.842
Diego: And these two are a great example of that.
00:33:17.262 --> 00:33:24.542
Diego: And they're different because of that core point of the fact that, like, they're not the wild beasts that the human survivors think they are.
00:33:24.882 --> 00:33:25.182
Joshua: Yeah.
00:33:25.462 --> 00:33:26.082
Diego: Good one, good one.
00:33:26.302 --> 00:33:26.582
Diego: Yeah.
00:33:26.642 --> 00:33:27.182
Diego: So, all right.
00:33:27.302 --> 00:33:28.222
Diego: Here's my last one.
00:33:29.982 --> 00:33:32.302
Diego: This one was kind of crazy, but, yo.
00:33:32.322 --> 00:33:35.982
Joshua: Say the first thing, and then I'll try to guess what the second one is.
00:33:36.122 --> 00:33:36.602
Diego: Okay.
00:33:37.162 --> 00:33:38.862
Diego: The first one is Mortal Kombat.
00:33:39.902 --> 00:33:41.782
Diego: You are not going to guess the second one.
00:33:41.802 --> 00:33:43.062
Diego: I guarantee it.
00:33:49.622 --> 00:33:51.162
Joshua: Um, like that, like that racing game.
00:33:51.962 --> 00:33:52.322
Diego: What?
00:33:52.662 --> 00:33:54.682
Joshua: Um, with the clown.
00:33:55.882 --> 00:33:56.522
Diego: Twisted Metal?
00:33:56.602 --> 00:33:56.942
Joshua: Yeah.
00:33:59.022 --> 00:33:59.802
Diego: No, definitely.
00:33:59.822 --> 00:34:02.722
Diego: I mean, that's not, that wasn't what I picked, but why, why do you think that?
00:34:03.182 --> 00:34:09.402
Joshua: Because it's like, honestly, I don't know.
00:34:10.082 --> 00:34:13.422
Diego: But wait, Twisted Metal might be a good parallel for other stories, though.
00:34:13.442 --> 00:34:14.722
Diego: You got to think about that one.
00:34:14.722 --> 00:34:17.482
Diego: OK, but it's Mortal Kombat.
00:34:17.862 --> 00:34:18.662
Diego: Embrace yourself.
00:34:19.202 --> 00:34:19.942
Joshua: Star Wars.
00:34:25.792 --> 00:34:26.552
Diego: I know, right?
00:34:26.632 --> 00:34:27.872
Diego: It seems like, what?
00:34:28.372 --> 00:34:30.092
Joshua: Wait, wait.
00:34:30.092 --> 00:34:31.692
Diego: Come on now, come on now.
00:34:33.992 --> 00:34:35.152
Joshua: I think I get it.
00:34:35.172 --> 00:34:35.932
Diego: What do you think it is?
00:34:35.952 --> 00:34:36.272
Diego: Go ahead.
00:34:37.172 --> 00:34:45.852
Joshua: There's the, like, dictator, which would be either Palpatine or Darth Vader.
00:34:45.872 --> 00:34:46.872
Diego: Uh-huh.
00:34:47.252 --> 00:34:49.572
Joshua: And then there's Shao Kahn.
00:34:49.592 --> 00:34:51.572
Diego: Oh, you are getting it, okay.
00:34:51.952 --> 00:34:57.972
Joshua: And then there's, like, Liu Kang, and then-
00:34:57.992 --> 00:35:00.272
Diego: No, no, hold on, wait, wait, stay on the side of the bad guys first.
00:35:01.492 --> 00:35:05.472
Diego: You got, my parallels are Palpatine and Shao Kahn, right?
00:35:05.492 --> 00:35:12.132
Diego: Definitely, like, the emperors, Emperor Shao Kahn, Emperor Palpatine, and then the Darth Vader character would be-
00:35:12.452 --> 00:35:13.132
Diego: Go ahead, come on.
00:35:13.152 --> 00:35:14.232
Joshua: It would be Scorpion.
00:35:14.252 --> 00:35:14.672
Diego: No, no.
00:35:15.172 --> 00:35:16.012
Joshua: It would be-
00:35:17.132 --> 00:35:22.332
Diego: At least in the first few stories, there's a clear second-in-command, right-hand guy.
00:35:23.092 --> 00:35:24.392
Diego: No, Shang Tsung.
00:35:25.712 --> 00:35:28.332
Joshua: Oh, I was thinking about that character.
00:35:28.352 --> 00:35:29.312
Joshua: I couldn't remember the name.
00:35:29.352 --> 00:35:32.232
Diego: Yeah, Shang Tsung, and then it's Quan Chi afterwards.
00:35:32.912 --> 00:35:36.132
Diego: But yeah, there's always a second one who's very powerful as well.
00:35:36.292 --> 00:35:37.032
Joshua: Yeah.
00:35:37.172 --> 00:35:38.252
Joshua: So would-
00:35:39.172 --> 00:35:39.632
Joshua: Would-
00:35:41.252 --> 00:35:43.272
Diego: And then there's the rebels, right?
00:35:43.292 --> 00:35:56.792
Diego: Because the nether realm, which is basically the empire, is going around to other realms instead of other parts of the galaxy, instead of other solar systems in the galaxy, is going to other realms and conquering, right?
00:35:57.292 --> 00:36:03.072
Diego: So the earth realm warriors end up being the rebels of Star Wars.
00:36:03.852 --> 00:36:06.992
Joshua: So that would be Liu Kang, the guy with the hat.
00:36:07.292 --> 00:36:10.532
Diego: Sonya, Kung Lao, all those guys.
00:36:10.652 --> 00:36:15.092
Diego: Like Kung Lao, Liu Kang, Stryker, Sonya Blade, Jax.
00:36:15.632 --> 00:36:17.312
Joshua: Who would guys like...
00:36:17.372 --> 00:36:18.532
Diego: The second Sub-Zero.
00:36:18.692 --> 00:36:22.692
Joshua: Who would guys like Scorpion be?
00:36:24.092 --> 00:36:28.152
Diego: I would liken Scorpion to a Han Solo type character.
00:36:28.292 --> 00:36:28.732
Diego: Yeah.
00:36:28.812 --> 00:36:33.092
Diego: It's like the grizzled badass type character who doesn't follow the rules.
00:36:33.112 --> 00:36:33.552
Joshua: Yeah.
00:36:34.372 --> 00:36:38.832
Diego: Kind of has one foot in the good side, one foot in the bad side sort of thing.
00:36:38.952 --> 00:36:39.532
Joshua: Yeah.
00:36:39.672 --> 00:36:42.532
Diego: And then you've got the Raiden character, and then you've got...
00:36:43.752 --> 00:36:44.152
Joshua: Yoda?
00:36:44.832 --> 00:36:45.152
Diego: No.
00:36:47.072 --> 00:36:47.572
Diego: Obi-Wan?
00:36:47.612 --> 00:36:48.652
Diego: Obi-Wan, thank you.
00:36:48.792 --> 00:36:49.092
Joshua: Yeah.
00:36:49.232 --> 00:36:49.612
Diego: Yeah.
00:36:49.652 --> 00:36:52.932
Diego: They're like the two wiser, older dudes, right?
00:36:53.352 --> 00:36:55.632
Diego: Representing some sort of mystical order.
00:36:55.912 --> 00:36:56.312
Joshua: Yeah.
00:36:56.332 --> 00:36:56.712
Diego: Yeah.
00:36:56.712 --> 00:36:58.852
Diego: There's like a ton of parallels when you start looking at it.
00:36:59.232 --> 00:37:03.392
Joshua: That was like a whole jumpscare hearing you say Star Wars.
00:37:03.412 --> 00:37:04.192
Diego: I know, yeah.
00:37:04.632 --> 00:37:06.432
Diego: It kind of was for me, too.
00:37:06.452 --> 00:37:07.632
Diego: I started thinking about it.
00:37:07.652 --> 00:37:14.192
Diego: I'm like, what is similar to Star Wars, but not like the obvious stuff like Dune or something like that?
00:37:14.752 --> 00:37:19.852
Diego: And then I started thinking of video games, and I was like, what video games are similar to it?
00:37:19.872 --> 00:37:21.332
Diego: Again, that's not like stupid obvious.
00:37:21.832 --> 00:37:30.512
Diego: And yeah, man, like Mortal Kombat has had that core story since, like, what, MK2, I think, is when you first see Shao Kahn.
00:37:30.612 --> 00:37:35.512
Diego: At first, you only see Shang Tsung, and then you see Shao Kahn in MK2 for the first time.
00:37:35.532 --> 00:37:42.652
Diego: And then in MK3, the whole invasion thing, and the Netherrealm conquering becomes a real big part of MK3.
00:37:42.672 --> 00:37:49.212
Joshua: Yeah, it was like the first storyline, first timeline was from Mortal Kombat 1, or like 2 or 3 or something like that.
00:37:49.392 --> 00:37:51.152
Joshua: That's when the story really started.
00:37:51.172 --> 00:37:56.352
Diego: Yeah, and 2 is really where a little bit of story started seeping in, but 3 is where it started really taking shape.
00:37:56.372 --> 00:38:01.432
Joshua: So from 3 to 9, that was the first storyline.
00:38:01.452 --> 00:38:07.332
Joshua: Then you have 9 to 11, that's the second one.
00:38:07.352 --> 00:38:11.872
Joshua: And then the new Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat 1, which is the newest timeline.
00:38:14.052 --> 00:38:18.032
Joshua: That is actually really cool how close that is.
00:38:18.052 --> 00:38:19.032
Diego: I know, right?
00:38:20.512 --> 00:38:21.632
Diego: For real, it really is.
00:38:21.712 --> 00:38:22.412
Diego: It's really cool.
00:38:23.252 --> 00:38:27.852
Diego: And I think there's even a betrayal factor in how Shao Kahn got to power.
00:38:27.872 --> 00:38:38.932
Diego: I forget exactly what it was, but I'm pretty sure that he turned his back on someone, betrayed someone just like Palpatine betrayed the Republic and the people who trusted him when he was a senator or whatever.
00:38:38.952 --> 00:38:40.652
Diego: Yeah, there's a lot of parallels.
00:38:40.752 --> 00:38:41.292
Diego: It's pretty cool.
00:38:41.692 --> 00:38:49.412
Diego: And I think that this whole thing, man, it's like, does this make you feel...
00:38:49.432 --> 00:39:00.452
Diego: I don't know, this whole exercise, did it make you feel better about stories or did it make you feel like, man, there's really nothing original anymore?
00:39:01.052 --> 00:39:17.952
Joshua: No, because honestly, you can still get two stories that have kind of the same plot, but the actual story and what plays out in the story can be different, which makes it feel unique, I feel like.
00:39:17.972 --> 00:39:28.472
Joshua: Because say with God of War and Red Dead Redemption 2, like when you think about the plot, it's really similar, but the stories are so different.
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Diego: Right.
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Diego: I think it's all about the world building, right?
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Diego: That's what makes it into something fresh.
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Joshua: And the setting, obviously, can change stuff a lot.
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Diego: I think horror is another one, too.
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Diego: In horror, there's a lot of space for picking some other story trope and just creating kind of a horror version of it.
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Diego: I don't know.
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Diego: There's a lot.
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Diego: There's a lot.
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Diego: I mean, you could say that basically every slasher movie is a parallel of each other.
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Joshua: Pretty much.
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Diego: At its core, it's all the same stuff.
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Diego: But yeah, man, this is actually a really cool exercise.
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Diego: It does make me hopeful for what's going to be the next thing, unexpected thing, that somebody's going to spin off into this whole new thing, this whole new world.
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Diego: I really like the exercise.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Joshua: This was fun.
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Diego: Yeah, it was.
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Diego: Hey, and let us know, those of you out there listening, is there any, as we were going through these different core story types, these different examples, I got to imagine that some of you out there were like, what, you guys didn't think of this thing paired up with this other thing?
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Diego: How could you miss that?
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Diego: Share it with us.
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Diego: Let us know what parallels you guys can match up.
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